Maiden69 Posted August 18, 2004 Report Share Posted August 18, 2004 Hi guys, I just got the e-mail back from Krylon were I inquired about the Triple thick clear laquer and this is their response. "Thank you for your inquiry. The Triple Thick product is a hydro carbon resin lacquer. It dries to the touch in 15 minutes, cures in 24 hours and can be recoated anytime (chemical adhesion). We do not test this product with the Dupli Color line, so it would be necessary to perform a self-test. The product is available in aerosol cans or in a brush-on formula. " What is hydro-carbon resin? This is the 1st time I hear of this and I will like to know what it is... if it is common to use? I got 3 cans to use it, and will be doing a test to see if it is compatible with the Duplicolor acryliks. Also I like that it can be recoated anytime like the laquers, I guess it burnes thru well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted August 18, 2004 Report Share Posted August 18, 2004 I use it for necks sometimes as a clearcoat, but I'll have to disagree with the dry time. Also be careful on spraying to much it will run in an heartbeat because it builds up thick and heavy quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden69 Posted August 18, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2004 Thanks Brian, how long did it took to fully cure and how much time did you waited before colorsanding and polishing? I'm glad that youare back, the news are not good from what I've seen. I thought that it wasn't going to be that severe! Been living with the hurracaines all my live, and when I thought that I had left them behind in texa, there were tornados to look for! Mother Nature!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
litchfield Posted August 19, 2004 Report Share Posted August 19, 2004 Took mine about 3 days to cure. Heat will make it blister, not speed dry time. I does work over duplicolor as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden69 Posted August 19, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2004 Thanks Litch, I tried yesterday and I was mad when Ishot a full coat, and everything looked clouded, I mean the dark blue metalic looked like light solid blue! But this morning when it was dried it was nice and clear. I think I should be done by this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
litchfield Posted August 19, 2004 Report Share Posted August 19, 2004 Yeah, that scared me too. Looks cloudy sometimes in the first coat. Whay I dont know. If the sloudiness stays, recoat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden69 Posted August 29, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2004 Ok, here is the deal on my experience with this paint. 1. It goes on cloudy on the 1st time so don't be alarmed if you can't even see the base coat after your 1st full coat. 2. I think that this paint is really soft to be used on a guitar, colorsanding was easier than sanding the primer or a sealer coat. It just came out too easy. 3. It doesn't like hot weather! I have left the guitars that I painted with duplicolor in the outside even under direct sulight and never had a problem, this one stand out side for a few hours under indirect light, I think it took direct sun for about 1 hr or more and this http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v195/Maiden69/DSC01202.jpg happened. It bubbled up about 1/2" and I have a lot of places were the paint just sunked or shrinked like if it was rained on top but going down instead of up. 4. Like it is wasy to colorsand, the same can't be said about polishing. It shines to a liquid glass state, but you have a hard time getting the polish out of the paint, looks like it dries on top of it! and when you put a little more it comes right off, this never happened with any other paint that I haved ever used! Lesson learned! If you are using a product and get good results, stick with it! From now on I will use Duplicolor, and the only thing I will try before switching will be nitro and the water based one that Stwe Mac sells... and only on scraps. Never try a new product on the guitar that you are making! I'm starting to save money from now to get me a little paint booth and some equipment to do poly!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex18327 Posted May 24, 2007 Report Share Posted May 24, 2007 (edited) i didn't research the krylon triple thick glaze product thoroughly enough before using it and i had all of the negative experiences listed on here except the blistering in the sun. the first coat did go on cloudy. i was excited when it dried (or so i thought it dried) to an excellent deep, rich clear coat. my biggest issue is that the stuff just doesn't seem to dry. even after two days hanging in a 70 degree room with low humidity (close to ideal drying conditions i would think) the terrycloth pattern of the towel i laid it on to polish it was imprinted on the back of the guitar. i cleaned it up and re-sprayed it and the full dry time is yet to be seen. will repost with results after i give it a week or so to cure and let everyone know how i made out. Edited May 24, 2007 by alex18327 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 Definitely give it 3 days minimum before touching the neck. You can press you thumbnail into the heel of the neck and see if it dents it any, if it doesn't, it's good to go! Also, remember that each time you re-coat it it will take that much longer to dry. Expect to give it 5-7 days now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex18327 Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 Definitely give it 3 days minimum before touching the neck. You can press you thumbnail into the heel of the neck and see if it dents it any, if it doesn't, it's good to go! Also, remember that each time you re-coat it it will take that much longer to dry. Expect to give it 5-7 days now. will it get hard enough to actually offer some protection? i'm a little concerned that it just won't be tough enough to stand up to normal wear and tear- alex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted May 26, 2007 Report Share Posted May 26, 2007 Give it time to cure and it will be very hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racer X Posted June 3, 2007 Report Share Posted June 3, 2007 (edited) I grabbed a can of that stuff, once, to re-fin a headstock. Had nothing but problems with it, and it seemed real soft, even after days, so I quickly dropped it like a hot potato, and switched to something else. It wasn't till after that, that a fellow forum member warned me about that stuff. Still have the original can, downstairs, collecting dust. Edited June 3, 2007 by Racer X Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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espnut2 Posted July 14, 2007 Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 (edited) I know this is a late reply/response to this topic first off, so sorry about this...I used this on several guitars and have been waiting well over a month for it to harden. It has yet to do so. Everytime I pick it up, it leaves a slight finger print ot hair print from my leg. It covers and smooth sands over graphics great and offers a great shine if you can get the polish off as mentioned above (Gibson spray polish works well). WAY to hard to work with and I believe I will stick with Deft. The only thing about deft is, when using pearl paint from cans like the Testors spray Pearls (I know...model car paint???), It wrinkles the color coat. Not sure why. Anyone? Edited July 14, 2007 by espnut2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racer X Posted July 15, 2007 Report Share Posted July 15, 2007 Yup, that's why I said I dropped it like a hot potato. I will NEVER put that stuff on one of my guitars again. I've had better luck with the Duplicolor Engine Enamels, to be honest. They worked when lots of others wouldn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex18327 Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 it's comming up on six months and mine is STILL not cured. if i didn't like the work under it so much i would have stripped it off and started over months ago. at this point i have waited so long that i have all but given up on ever playing it again and it is more like a piece of modern giutar art hanging in my office. i have heard it could take a year. for me so far the work under it is worth the wiat. will updtae at the krylon hostage crisis continues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitar2005 Posted October 18, 2007 Report Share Posted October 18, 2007 it's comming up on six months and mine is STILL not cured. if i didn't like the work under it so much i would have stripped it off and started over months ago. at this point i have waited so long that i have all but given up on ever playing it again and it is more like a piece of modern giutar art hanging in my office. i have heard it could take a year. for me so far the work under it is worth the wiat. will updtae at the krylon hostage crisis continues. I hear ya brother! I used the krylon stuff on a headstock and 6 months later, its still not hardened. With the Duplicolor clear that I used on my Rhoads V, I'm still waiting a year later for the finish to harden fully. The only clearcoat that ever worked for me is DEFT, but nitro lacquer is not compatible with acrylic lacquers that are available as solid colors so choose your color coat wisely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fookgub Posted October 18, 2007 Report Share Posted October 18, 2007 (edited) it's comming up on six months and mine is STILL not cured. if i didn't like the work under it so much i would have stripped it off and started over months ago. at this point i have waited so long that i have all but given up on ever playing it again and it is more like a piece of modern giutar art hanging in my office. i have heard it could take a year. for me so far the work under it is worth the wiat. will updtae at the krylon hostage crisis continues. Dude, strip it and start over! Even if that stuff eventually cures hard enough to buff, it will never stand up to the kind of handling a guitar gets. It will look awful within a year. I know you're very happy with the artwork under the clear, but why can't you just redo that, too? If you did a good job once, surely you can do it again. Guitar2005: I've used nitro over Duplicolor colors before with no problems. A barrier coat of shellac was all I needed. Edited October 18, 2007 by fookgub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsmith Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 Has anyone tried using a 2k clear coat over the krylon to get a hardened shell without stripping the previous down? I'm getting that soft dentable issue on my glitter flake telecaster. Just wondering if that would save some work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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