natethegreat86 Posted August 25, 2004 Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 Hi! Probably none of you have seen me on here before, but ive been a member for quite a while. ive just been gone this summer in a different state at a friends house. but i took my guitar, and i had some fun with it hehe. it was a loooong and annoying process, but it has finally come to an end. the pictures really suck and dont do it justice, so im gonna do my best to describe the process as well. ok, some of you, if you have incredible memories may remember a topic a loooong time ago that i did where it was about how id duct-taped my red guitar and made it into a british flag. it actually didnt look bad at all. that was the start. inspiration had struck. i couldnt just leave it. i wrote down my plan and drew out sketch after sketch, adding ideas each time, until i was ready. i practiced over and over on pieces of scrap wood until it was perfect. so then i proceeded to remove the duct tape and take it apart and strip the paint and all that. then i taped it all off and painted the british flag on there with some regular old spray paint. yes, regular spray paint. then i went and got some cheap gloss-in-a-can and added about 6 coats. at this point i was so close to not wanting to go on cuz it looked really good. but, i stuck to my plan and kept going. and it went craaaaazy after that. i put the whammy bar and wire plug thing and the metal thing at the bottom of the strings in a bowl of salt water and let them sit. yea. haha. im crazy. then my friend knew a place with some big blowtorch thingy that just shot out heat and not flames, so we went and visited and he helped me out. i told him what i was wanting and he gladly shot my poor guitar for about 3 minutes with his heat gun thing and melted the gloss. then we quickly hit it with a high powered fan with spray nozzles on it spraying out cold water. this created a rippling and cracked effect in the gloss. everyone thought i was stupid and insane, but i was extatic with the results, i coulnt of asked for it to be any better. so when we got home i proceeded to take it to the garage and get the chizzle and hammer on it and scratch parts of it away, in one large area going down to the wood, and in parts only taking off the gloss. it made a sort of scratched away sort of explosion thing. lookin great. so after all this torture i was almost done. just a little more paint. i got some black primer paint and sprayed parts of it, creating a burnt and worn effect. i got the stuff out of the water, that had corroded just like i wanted and i put everything together. This thing just feels mean. i am so incredibly happy with the results and everyone that said i was crazy when i started is now bowing down lol i hope you like it! -nathan again, these pictures dont do it justice, so please dont judge it by them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jivin Posted August 25, 2004 Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 Awesome work man! Looks like you salvaged your guitar from a burning house great stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teknohippy Posted August 25, 2004 Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 Awesome work man! Looks like you salvaged your guitar from a burning house great stuff Perhaps that's what you should say from now on Nat. Say it enough times and you'll believe it yourself. Embelish a story around it that it's the one thing you felt you couldn't leave behind. Or maybe you were playing it at a gig the IRA blew up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Posted August 25, 2004 Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 Thats pretty damn cool, looks really...umm...real Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Posted August 25, 2004 Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 Wow dude you totally schooled that guitar! I think it's safe to say that guitar is now your bitch. Isn't it covered in soot and stuff now though? It looks like some of that black might come off on your hands? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a bicycle made of anarchy Posted August 25, 2004 Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 hmm. interesting idea, executed well.. good work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maher Posted August 25, 2004 Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 i loved the union jack paint job, but what you done after that just sucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Posted August 25, 2004 Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 I think it's wicked in a kind of SRV way - the union jack looked a bit weedy if you ask me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden69 Posted August 25, 2004 Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 I will say it was looking great until I scrolled down, I hear the trumpet, Taps playing on the horizon fading away, , better that guitar than me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdguitars Posted August 25, 2004 Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 guitar has tons of mojo powers now! cool idea neat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natethegreat86 Posted August 25, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 thanks, yall. to answer your question, the black doesnt come off on your hands. i used automotive primer so it was tough, and it stayed perfectly on the wood. on the pickguard, it would come off if you rubbed hard enough tho. but i didnt want that shiny finish. so i went to hobby lobby and got some matte finish and sprayed that on it. now its as rugged as it looks. and probably just as flammable.... anywho, peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum5545 Posted August 25, 2004 Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 Man, Jimi would be proud of that burnin strat! Gotta say, reliced guitars have never been my thing, but I like what you did with yours. You took it to places no guitar has ever been before. I would have just left it with the rippled and cracked clear surface (no paint/relicing) and corroded hardware, but it still looks good right now. How comfortable is it to play? Anyway, innovators like you keep the guitar industry moving. Congrats! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weezerboy Posted August 25, 2004 Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 its kinda anti british! i love it! i want it to have my babies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotrock Posted August 25, 2004 Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 Kudos muchos kudos. That guitar is nearly as cool as I am, and that's cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragyn Posted August 25, 2004 Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 Personally, I preferred the Union Jack paint job that you did, but the relicing was what you wanted and you are very happy with the results, which ultimately is the best part of it. It came out the way YOU wanted it and I applaud you for sticking to your ideas!!! That is what customizing and creating is all about! Dragyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy Posted August 25, 2004 Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 i think its a bloody shame you made that explosion on it, i liked it better with just the flag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natethegreat86 Posted August 25, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 hey thanks again for the nice comments. a few things i have to say... 1. sorry the pics arent workin right now. i use village photos and im only allowed 5 mb every day or sumthin and it went over. so if any of yall know of any other sites i could use, it would be much appreciated. 2. this guitar was inspired by zakk wyld's custom lp. its a confederate flag thats all burnt and scratched and its got what looks like old bottle caps all over it. pretty sweet if you havent seen it. 3. its alright to play. its the sort of guitar that when you play, you feel mean and want to play mean things. its got a sort of dark feel to it that urges you to thrash. i didnt do anything to the neck, so it still plays fine. 4. i wouldnt do this to a good guitar. please dont think im brave and stuff by going after my fender american strat. because its not. its a squier strat. i bought it from a friend for 40 bucks. it was actually my first guitar. i now have 4 other nicer and much more expensive guitars and i wouldnt dream of doing anything like this to them. but now this is probably my favorite looking guitar lol. anyways. a lot of what happened with the paintjob had weeks of planning, and a lot of it was pure luck that it turned out that way. either way, its pimp as mess haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jivin Posted August 26, 2004 Report Share Posted August 26, 2004 I have to ask, cause ive been meaning to for ages... The conferderate flag... doesn't it carry a bit of a racist, pro-slavery connotation? Im the first to admit I dont know much abou the american civil war or whatever it was from.. or american history full stop, but thats just what I had heard... that it was like the flag of the southerners and it sort of represented the people who wanted to keep african-americans as slaves? Meh, i might go do some research now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Jabsco Posted August 26, 2004 Report Share Posted August 26, 2004 Yes jivin, it is a matter of controversy at my school. ( I live in the south) And many kids are wearing shirts with confederate flags, and even go so far as writting things refering to hanging blacks on the walls of the bathroom. Its very horrible what they do. But some people just see the confederate flag as a sign of southern pride. And Nate- Try www.fullserve.com, its really a great place. If you have any questions PM me, im very eager to see this guitar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natethegreat86 Posted August 26, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2004 Jivin, a little history.... the confederate flag really isnt that bad. its simply modern media and other things that make it look bad and negative. all it represents is the southern states during the civil war. the civil war did not take place because of slavery and stuff. slavery was all over the US, and it only became a factor later in the war. it started because all the northern states up north were industrialized and much more wealthier. the southern states were all about farming and plantations and stuff. so the north pretty much controlled everything, including the government. the south hated this and wanted to break away from the states and form their own republic, which would be called the confederate states of america. north didnt want this for various reasons so they declared war on the south. the only reason they added slavery into the mix was because the majority of the slaves were down south working on the farms. this way, they had the moral advantage and made it look like they were the good guys. eventually the north would win simply because it was so much more wealthy and industrialized (the north had factories to build guns while every southern gun was handmade). and the norht won. but just barely. it was the bloodiest war the us has ever had. after that, the next presidential election was held, and lincoln, the northern republican, would win because of the many votes of the southern blacks who voted out of gratitude for freeing them. after it, reconstruction in the south would begin, but lincoln would be assasinated, and reconstruction would pretty much stop, and northern politicians would sweep down south and take offices everywhere, making the northern presence everywhere. they would pretty much torture the southerners and make them go bankrupt and unable to gain anything. this would go on for a long time, but thats a different story lol wow. cant believe i just wrote that much. thats pretty much all i remember from us history in a nutshell. and one other little thing.....dr.jabsco....i was excited when you gave me that site, until i went to it and found it was a site about restaurants lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Jabsco Posted August 26, 2004 Report Share Posted August 26, 2004 HAHAHA OOOPS www.fullservesite.com (i forgot the last part there) sorrya bout that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Posted August 26, 2004 Report Share Posted August 26, 2004 Jivin, a little history.... the confederate flag really isnt that bad. its simply modern media and other things that make it look bad and negative. all it represents is the southern states during the civil war. the civil war did not take place because of slavery and stuff. slavery was all over the US, and it only became a factor later in the war. it started because all the northern states up north were industrialized and much more wealthier. the southern states were all about farming and plantations and stuff. so the north pretty much controlled everything, including the government. the south hated this and wanted to break away from the states and form their own republic, which would be called the confederate states of america. north didnt want this for various reasons so they declared war on the south. the only reason they added slavery into the mix was because the majority of the slaves were down south working on the farms. this way, they had the moral advantage and made it look like they were the good guys. eventually the north would win simply because it was so much more wealthy and industrialized (the north had factories to build guns while every southern gun was handmade). and the norht won. but just barely. it was the bloodiest war the us has ever had. after that, the next presidential election was held, and lincoln, the northern republican, would win because of the many votes of the southern blacks who voted out of gratitude for freeing them. after it, reconstruction in the south would begin, but lincoln would be assasinated, and reconstruction would pretty much stop, and northern politicians would sweep down south and take offices everywhere, making the northern presence everywhere. they would pretty much torture the southerners and make them go bankrupt and unable to gain anything. this would go on for a long time, but thats a different story lol wow. cant believe i just wrote that much. thats pretty much all i remember from us history in a nutshell. and one other little thing.....dr.jabsco....i was excited when you gave me that site, until i went to it and found it was a site about restaurants lol Bravo! I just learned more about US history than I ever did at school! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
litchfield Posted August 26, 2004 Report Share Posted August 26, 2004 cant see the pics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jivin Posted August 26, 2004 Report Share Posted August 26, 2004 Thanks for that nate, that really helped to put things in perspective. - Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum5545 Posted August 26, 2004 Report Share Posted August 26, 2004 Jivin, a little history.... the confederate flag really isnt that bad. its simply modern media and other things that make it look bad and negative. all it represents is the southern states during the civil war. the civil war did not take place because of slavery and stuff. slavery was all over the US, and it only became a factor later in the war. it started because all the northern states up north were industrialized and much more wealthier. the southern states were all about farming and plantations and stuff. so the north pretty much controlled everything, including the government. the south hated this and wanted to break away from the states and form their own republic, which would be called the confederate states of america. north didnt want this for various reasons so they declared war on the south. the only reason they added slavery into the mix was because the majority of the slaves were down south working on the farms. this way, they had the moral advantage and made it look like they were the good guys. eventually the north would win simply because it was so much more wealthy and industrialized (the north had factories to build guns while every southern gun was handmade). and the norht won. but just barely. it was the bloodiest war the us has ever had. after that, the next presidential election was held, and lincoln, the northern republican, would win because of the many votes of the southern blacks who voted out of gratitude for freeing them. after it, reconstruction in the south would begin, but lincoln would be assasinated, and reconstruction would pretty much stop, and northern politicians would sweep down south and take offices everywhere, making the northern presence everywhere. they would pretty much torture the southerners and make them go bankrupt and unable to gain anything. this would go on for a long time, but thats a different story lol wow. cant believe i just wrote that much. thats pretty much all i remember from us history in a nutshell. and one other little thing.....dr.jabsco....i was excited when you gave me that site, until i went to it and found it was a site about restaurants lol Nate, keep in mind the biases of geography. You live in the south (texas) and you're taught the version that makes south look good. I live in the north (michigan) and our school taught us the version that made the north look good. Neither is MORE right than the other. On a side note, is it true that some southerners refer to it as "the war of northern aggression"? That said, the north and the south were economically tied to each other, with the south providing raw materials to the north, and the north providing processed goods to the south. Even if the south had successfully seceeded(sp?), it would still rely on the north, and the north on the south as well. That said, the confederate flag was the symbol of the "free south", and is used as a symbol of southern pride. It has racist connotations to those who use it in a racist way, but it's really no different than me having the michigan flag on a guitar. That said, it's beyond me why people would wave a symbol of a lost war effort, but to each his own, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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