PerryL Posted October 19, 2004 Report Share Posted October 19, 2004 I've been working on my string thru body and wondered if any of you may have seen or know where to get Top ferrules where the strings come through on top of the body. I'm using tele string ferrules for the back and I know I've seen some nice chrome tops on certain guitars but I need to find some to add to the look of the guitar. It would look fine without them but if anyone has a line on some that can be purchased, I'd love to add them to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MzI Posted October 19, 2004 Report Share Posted October 19, 2004 i personally use the tele ferrules on both the front and back, im gonna keep using em until i find something better and ive used em on 3 guitars now with tom's and they produce great sustain MzI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted October 19, 2004 Report Share Posted October 19, 2004 some guys on the forum have used the grommets from a set of bass strings successfully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Executioner606 Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 some guys on the forum have used the grommets from a set of bass strings successfully Not a bad idea. Too bad i cant get some in black. I was looking for some black ones because im getting another platinum virgin and making it white with black hardware to be a sister guitar to my main guitar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 some guys on the forum have used the grommets from a set of bass strings successfully Not a bad idea. Too bad i cant get some in black. I was looking for some black ones because im getting another platinum virgin and making it white with black hardware to be a sister guitar to my main guitar. paint them...install them...then clearcoat the guitar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsullivan2 Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 Both Carvin and Stewart Mac have front and back in chrome, gold, and black Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerryL Posted October 20, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 (edited) Haven't seen any at stewmac for the front. I'll have another look. Well, After searching StewMac and the Web, Couldn't find any ferrules for the front. Edited October 20, 2004 by PerryL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinP Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 What's the difference between front and back ones? Or am I just plain stupid... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angry_jeremy Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 (edited) Aren't the top ones mainly just a ring to make it so that the string doesn't gouge the naked wood? They have rolled edges so that there's no sharp metal edge that the string is grinding against (me thinks that the back ferrules have sharp edges where the string would touch it). MzI: Do you use the flush mount tele ferrules for the top? I've been wondering where to get some top ferrules as well. StewMac Ferrules Both kinds seem a little jagged where the string would be bent to head toward the bridge Edited October 20, 2004 by angry_jeremy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MzI Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 i use the ones with the ring around the top, not the flush mount ones for both the front and back, i like em on the front because your gonna have the strings leaning against the metal instead of the wood, if the strings were leanin against the wood itd be destroyed and look terrible MzI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerryL Posted October 20, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 (edited) Here's an Idea I had just now that may do the trick for top mounting ferrules. If I can figure out how to set them in the hole properly, This would be a great way to make it look nice and they can be had at major craft shops as well. Edited October 20, 2004 by PerryL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angry_jeremy Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 Man, what are those? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerryL Posted October 20, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 They're craft eyelets. Kinda like those eyelets in your shoes only un-crimped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myka Guitars Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 Here is a company that sells over 30,000 styles of eyelets: Stimpson Co Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerryL Posted October 20, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 Thanx Myka. It looks like they've got some eyelets for about everything. That's exactly what I was going for. Just have to figure out how to crimp those down so they stay put. On a different Note, You've made some beautiful guitars on your website. Very Nice Work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Rosenberger Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 Better get lots of those eyelets, I've used them and as soon as the string gets tension on it the eyelets deform and eventually will fall out even if CA Glued in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Executioner606 Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 Neal Moser told me he uses "flairs" from the hardeware store for the topmount ferrules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myka Guitars Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 On a different Note, You've made some beautiful guitars on your website. Very Nice Work. Thanks! It's a lot of fun. I am just thankful that I get to do this for a living (most of the time at least). I love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerryL Posted October 21, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2004 Thanx Exe, Like Scott was saying Those lil suckers are too light weight and would bend and deform under the stress of the string So the Flairs are probably the best choice. Haven't seen them before but the hardware store I go to should have em. If not they can order em for me. Thanx everyone for the input and I'll update you as soon as I get them and get em installed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddler68 Posted November 1, 2004 Report Share Posted November 1, 2004 Try rivets. Make sure they're the steel ones and not aluminum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerryL Posted November 1, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2004 (edited) Todd, Thanx Alot! That's Exactly what I was Looking For AND they're easy to get and Hard enough that they won't buckle under the string pressure. They are small enough that they won't take up half the guitar top either. "That's the Dog Bollocks" as the Brits say! After reading the Router topic I noticed you were from Ohio. Where you located? I'm in this lil village of Lexington Close to Mansfield. Edited November 1, 2004 by PerryL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joej Posted November 1, 2004 Report Share Posted November 1, 2004 Eyelets maybe not .. but what about those cabinet ferrules? I've placed various eyelets in a strip of wood -- but haven't stress tested them yet. Good point about questioning its ability to withstrand the stress. OK, I was at Rockler today and saw those pieces you use to make cabinet shelving. These are pins that go into the shelf and ... round ferrule-like things to which they mate. At this point, I'm thinking the cost savings is lost :-) -- joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddler68 Posted November 1, 2004 Report Share Posted November 1, 2004 (edited) Todd, Thanx Alot! That's Exactly what I was Looking For AND they're easy to get and Hard enough that they won't buckle under the string pressure. They are small enough that they won't take up half the guitar top either. "That's the Dog Bollocks" as the Brits say! After reading the Router topic I noticed you were from Ohio. Where you located? I'm in this lil village of Lexington Close to Mansfield. I live in Cincinnati. My wife is from the Cleveland area so we go past Mansfield on the way up. Howdy, neighbor! Edited November 1, 2004 by toddler68 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden69 Posted November 1, 2004 Report Share Posted November 1, 2004 Yes. like tod said, use ribets, they have SS and if I get lucky I will get some from alloy that are used on some vehicles here! I called Stew and they don't have the top ones on that pic are back ferrules of 2 different types, and Carvin don't sell the top ones, I already call them too. THe craft eyelets suck they are too flimsy (soft) but look cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank falbo Posted November 2, 2004 Report Share Posted November 2, 2004 It looks like the craft eyelets would sit properly in a recessed hole made by a brad point drill bit. The brad point bit makes a mushroom shaped head. Then you could drill out the center of the hole to accept the eyelet and use CA. But then you'd reduce the chance of deformity because you'd have wood right behind it. I've used brass collets from compression fittings used with nylon plumbing tubing. They're super cheap, and they're strong and deep. They have a bugle head shape to them that's perfect for the strings, but difficult to fit. I used a drill bit slightly larger than the head of the "bugle" as the recessing bit, then drilled the hole, and finally used a tapered reamer to get the last bit of widening at the opening of the hole. On maple tops I have carved a long, gradual "egg shaped" opening and after saturating it with thin CA it holds up fine. You just have to get the angles and the curvature right to disperse the pressure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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