Duff Beer Man Posted December 26, 2004 Report Share Posted December 26, 2004 Is that free from mind, or did u use a template for the body and monkey grip? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurt76 Posted December 26, 2004 Report Share Posted December 26, 2004 Hi Curtis Now i can see, good work!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtis P Posted December 27, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2004 Is that free from mind, or did u use a template for the body and monkey grip? kinda free form, i downloaded the CAD drawing of the Jem with monkey grip, cut out the monkey grip with a scroll saw like i said more sanding!!! lol Fixing link now Curtis I cut the body using a paper template that i traced ontot my board Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtis P Posted January 25, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 OK, I recived my fingerboard (THANKS LGM!!!) and now I can really start motorin it, ohh yea baby, lol I am still unsure what the scale length of this fingerboard is, it doesnt seem to be 25.5, but maybe my template is wrong....always a possibiltiy Anyways, heres a little teaser (i hope its still allowed, if not, it will get removed) Heres The Rest Anyways, you can see the stain i am going to be using, and dont be alarmed, that is my bed spread, it is not my carpet or anything, LOL Feedback please?? Thanks Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill-Murray Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 Looks cool man. Still pretty rough. You better get that fingerboard thing worked out though.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtis P Posted January 25, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 Looks cool man. Still pretty rough. You better get that fingerboard thing worked out though.... ← Thanks, i am working on the bugs as we speak Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtis P Posted January 28, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2005 Got ahold of LGM finally, since he just got back from NAMM (which i forgot he was at too) He told me that it should be 25.5 scale length, so i am going to mesure all the frets on my washburn and then compare, One quick thing, it is set up for a lock nut, i would like to add a lock nut, but just from playing a few ibanezs with them, i seem to get my hand caught on them (well, cut, scraped, whatever) and i dont wanna bleed all over my guitar yea know, lol Pics in a few minutes, batteries are on the charger, and it dont take long to get a charge to upload pics to my computer Curtis Edit, heres the pics, well, links, lol http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v314/cur...ar/nutarea2.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v314/cur...tar/nutarea.jpg Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtis P Posted January 28, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2005 OK, I searched the forums, and checked the main site for tutorials, but i found nothing on bridge angle!! I a using a TOM, and it will be recessed (for lower action) But i cannot seem to find out how to angle it, can anyone either tell me, or point me to the correct way?? I really dont want to screw this guitar up and if i am just guesstimating on the bridge angle, then its not good enough Thanks!!!! Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden69 Posted January 28, 2005 Report Share Posted January 28, 2005 http://projectguitar.ibforums.com/index.php?showtopic=14036 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveq Posted January 28, 2005 Report Share Posted January 28, 2005 Curtis - how in the heck do you manage to get stuck or cut on a locking nut? I have never heard of this before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtis P Posted January 28, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2005 because i am stupid, lol no, somehow my hand just gets up there when i am playing near the nut, its dumb, but i am still going to add a locking nut Maiden, i need the bridge angle, not neck angle, like, how to angle the bridge. Thanks, i will keep searching Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGGR Posted January 28, 2005 Report Share Posted January 28, 2005 Curtis - how in the heck do you manage to get stuck or cut on a locking nut? I have never heard of this before. Same thing here. Also sometimes bump my hand into locking nut. And although functional....don't think locking nut is smoothest design out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveq Posted January 28, 2005 Report Share Posted January 28, 2005 What????!!! How are you guys doing this? What part of your hand hits the nut and what about the nut actually catches on your hand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtis P Posted January 28, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2005 Here Where the string goes in, i occasionaly bump it, and my hand got slightly caught a few times, dunno how i was doing it Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveq Posted January 28, 2005 Report Share Posted January 28, 2005 I'll let this go now but I'm still amazed at this. At first I thought maybe it's because you began playing guitars that didn't have them and switching to using a locking nut was just hard to do. Then I remembered that's exactly what I did but never had these problems. Oh well. So, just curious, why do you want to use one given that you have this issue and you aren't using a trem? Why not use locking tuners? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtis P Posted January 28, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2005 because i have a set of GOTOH mini tuners, and i cant take them back in, since they are 3x3 i can switch put them on a guitar and buy locking tuners (my other electric is 6 inline) Plus, the fingerboard is set up for a locking nut, and it will be just easier (since i am still new at this) to add a locking nut and be done with it Curtis Edit, your right Dave, the only guitar i have played with a locking nut on it was my friends, and i have been used to a regular nut (on my Washburn) so then we understand each other now? Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtis P Posted January 28, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2005 Well, i am offline for pretty much the rest of the day now, i turned the heat on in the shop, I am going to sand the body down to 320, then afterwork, use my boss's shop, and get him to help me set up some jigs for the neck pocket, pickups and control cavity, while we are doing that, my neck laminate will be drying, and tommorow i will be doing the scarf joint. For the scarf joint, I will be using a walnut headstock (hopefully we have some scraps left over at work) and if not, then it will be either cherry or maple Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtis P Posted January 28, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2005 well, I am back, i called my boss, its a ok to work on it tonight, and he said that if i bring up my neck laminations, i can laminate them together before work, so it will be dry by the time i get there (he uses a fast drying glue, but it still is strong) and then we can scarf joint it tonight as well One more thing, for the monkey grip, does it have to be routed?? or can i just use a dremel and work away at it that way (i am talking bout where your fingers go on the back side of the body) And, i made a little mistake sanding, i started with 150 (its been sanded to 120 or something before) and went over it front and back, then went to 220, went over front and back, and when i got to 320, i started the back first, and noticed the knot i had filled is no unfilled, grrrrrrrrr, looks like i am going to have to re fill it tonight at the shop. Pics later tonight of the scarf joint if i bring it home, if not, then i will probaly have pics of starting the routing Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtis P Posted January 28, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2005 OK, i re marked my neck pocket, and extended the lines to slightly past the bridge, the only problem i am having is, I marked where 25.5 is on the body, but how does the bridge (tune o matic) sit on it?? I want to recess the bridge slightly for a lower action, and i need to know the placement to I can do the bridge pickup Thanks, I will check this shortly after 5 oclock tonight when i get home from work, then i am off to the shp again at around 7 or 7:30 Thanks, Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meegs666 Posted January 30, 2005 Report Share Posted January 30, 2005 first of all, i dont think you need a perpendicular bridge angle if youre not having a neck angle, if thats what you mean by bridge angle. if you have a neck angle then the bridge angle should be perpendicular, or 90 degrees, to the flat plane of youre neck angle. i dont know if it matters though since you have a flattopped body, but im in no way an expert. second of all, you will need to angle your bridge as it sits on top of the plane of the body top. i cant think of the angle off the top of my head, but the bass side of the bridge will appear to have a longer scale length than the treble side, but in reality it will intonate properly because the saddles and heights will lock into the scale length. im gonna leave that open to whoever the next pro is who reads this, so daveq i hope you read this. third of all, locking nuts are to lock in the tuning on knife edge tremelos so nosedive after nosedive you dont have to worry about the tuning slipping in between the resetting of the knife edges and the tuners and the binding at the nut. i have no idea what youre trying to accomplish by putting it on a tom equipped guitar, nor do i know what pros or cons come with that, so go for it if you want one. fourth of all, beautiful work so far, keep the pics coming. especially if you do infact do a swirl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtis P Posted January 30, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2005 nah, i have decided to stain it, possible mahogany stain, or cherry, not sure yet I would like to do a swirl, but i cant seem to locate Borax thats in my area, so if i dont have it, i cant do it, unless there is some other kind of chemicle i can put in that does the same job Thanks for the comments, but i am still not sure what you mean on the bridge angle, if i have a perpindicular neck pocket (no angle) then i need a bridge angle?? but if i have an angle neck pocket, i need a straight bridge?? Thanks Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvertonessuckbutigotone Posted January 30, 2005 Report Share Posted January 30, 2005 to figure out scale length, measure to the 12th fret and double that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtis P Posted January 30, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2005 yea, i got the scale length, i actually forgot about doing that : Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meegs666 Posted January 30, 2005 Report Share Posted January 30, 2005 (edited) if you have no neck angle then the bridge wont have an angle, it can stand straight up off the body at 90 degrees. it WILL, however, need an angle to intonate correctly, but this is only a placement angle, a different angle then i referred to in the first sentence. look at some tune o matic equipped guitars and you will see the angle that you need. the tailpiece and the tune o matic wont be parallel. please somebody back me up with a better explaination, as i am bad at explaining things. and also if you have no neck angle you have to either raise the neck or recess the bridge to compensate for the extremely high action that you would have using a tom on a fender type guitar setup. Edited January 30, 2005 by Meegs666 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtis P Posted January 31, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 yes, i will be recessing the bridge, i will look at some tom equipped guitars, thanks Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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