shanter Posted July 29, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2005 oh wow, thanks for the site. ive seen it b4 but i completely forgot about it. ok so i think im sold on the...pink mother of pearl. Here i just wish it wasnt pink...i just love the way that it looks like flamed wood. here are 2 photoshops preferred color Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmrentis Posted July 29, 2005 Report Share Posted July 29, 2005 Thats going to be a great inlay. I was thinking maybe you could try for figured MOP and ask them to find you a piece that has that figuring. I don't know if they would do that or if the figured mop would be the color you want or if it would have as much flame as you want, but it would be worth asking. I see that they have a bunch of colors and types and are really knowledgable about it, hopefully they could help you out. Seriously that is going to be such a cool inlay, I'm excited for you, I wish I could come up with good eye-deas like that. Good luck. Later. Jason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickguard Posted July 29, 2005 Report Share Posted July 29, 2005 I like the recessed knobs idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobot Posted July 29, 2005 Report Share Posted July 29, 2005 The wood is actually....Mahogony...you cant really tell from the way the pics exposed but yea its mahogny we went and bought from www.exoticwoods.com. Its close by so we drove down and picked up some wood. ← you got it from exotic woods??? cool stuff, where do you live? because I live 15 minutes away from that place, they have some nice stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanter Posted July 30, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2005 Yea exotic woods is not too far from me...id say 40mins-1hr away. I live in NE philly. My friend and i got lost for over 1 hour trying to find it. So the whole trip was about 3 hours or so but well worth it. still trying to get a hold of a digicam...but i finished making my headstock template and now im in the process of designing a truss rod cover. and trying to figure out what sort of finish i want... 1. black stain with gloss clear 2. black stain with satin clear 3. black paint with gloss clear 4. balck paint with satin clear 5. black epoxy grain filler with a not-so-dark stain and gloss clear 6. black epoxy grain filler with a not-so-dark stain and satin clear im really for the black stain but my guitar is two piece so the seams would be very visible. any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegarehanman Posted July 30, 2005 Report Share Posted July 30, 2005 If you glued the pieces together well, a visable seam won't matter. Even if the grains are opposed at the seam, it will still look clean. Think about a bookmatched maple top. I'm thinking you should paint it black, fill the grain with the color fo your choice, then satin clear it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
american_jesus Posted July 30, 2005 Report Share Posted July 30, 2005 my honest opinion for the finish would be this. fill the grain light, and do a deep gray(or black) stain on top. it'd be cool if the grain came out speckled...but that's just me, and if i'm right, the grain would just be the color of the stain...a black grain filler with a satin clear on top would be cool too...but again, that's just me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanter Posted July 30, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2005 what im really looking for is more of a stealthed (sp?) grain. i want it so that if someone looked at the guitar from a few feet away it'd look like its completely black, but when they moved in closer theyd see that its actually stained. i just dont knwo if i could pull it off. or a completely 100% matte look like the esp urban camo http://www.guitarsatbmusic.com.au/esp/read...gs/nomad_69.htm i think that would look bad ass. or is there a way i could stain the guitar completely black (maybe a little grain show throught) and then put a good few coats of oil on it?....jsut an idea.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanter Posted July 30, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2005 ok finally got a digicam! The SG's neck all clamped up. My neck with HotRod Truss Rod and two carbon fiber reinforcement rods. also an ebony FB and the newly made headstock template. And all the rest of the parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanter Posted July 30, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2005 These are the aluminum knobs i machined. Gonna get them powder coated soon. blurry image Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegarehanman Posted July 30, 2005 Report Share Posted July 30, 2005 I hope you're using a volute for your own sake. That huge truss rod nut route is gonna weaken the headstock substantially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanter Posted July 30, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2005 yea im gonna use a volute. btw, i didnt even realize that it would weaken the headstock. oh and im also going to add an ebony veneer to the top and (maybe) back of the headstock so that should help a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wigglez Posted July 31, 2005 Report Share Posted July 31, 2005 Heyyyyyyy....what if on that SG you did red grain filler just where the flame design is?!!! then stained the rest of the wood a different color that would be crazy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanter Posted August 1, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2005 hm. thats a neat idea wiggles. well see tho. i dont know what he wants to do with the SG. But now im sort of stuck. i dont know if i shoudl glue the FB on first and then shape out the whole thing or should i shape out each one roughly and then finalize it when they are glued or shoudl i finalize each one and then glue em?? whats bothering me the most is getting the FB on 100% perpendicular with the nut. if its off by even a few degrees i know the intonation will be f'ed up. this is whats been botherin me the whole time!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanter Posted August 1, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2005 heres a quck rust water + mahogony test i jsut did. Wet Dried Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanter Posted August 5, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 ok some progress, not much, but im doing whatever i can to make sure everyhitng is perfect. drilled the tuner holes in the headstock to make sure it all fits nicely. if u look very carefully u can see how they are off by a bit, they arent perfectly lined up so ill have to see hiw i get that done exactly here i drew out the profile for the neck, jsut making sure none of my measurements conflict with one another. here is the inside of the cavity, worked on this today. one of the holes i drilled for the control knobs was a bit off so i made a mahogony dowl on the lathe and then glued it in and redrilled the hole. im yet to make my pickup selector knob so i jsut filled in the hole and im just going to wait on that until i get the knob done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmrentis Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 Progress looks like it's coming along nicely!! The routing looks really good, and the neck looks like it will come out good, with a nice fatty volute too!! I have come to love those things and I hope mine will turn out good like the one you have going. I'm just worried about shaping it, I want it perfect so I will just take my time and not use something that takes too much wood off. How far off was the selector hole from where you wanted it? Is there a reason it can't go there or is it not where you wanted it? I can imagine it's pretty tough to get the tuners perfect. I had to drill out my headstock to fit some sperzels and I had to do another set of holes for the little set pins, I got pretty lucky with the set pins as I got them pretty close to perfect, so everything lined up. It's not that easy and when you have to drill the tuner post hole I bet it's 10 times harder to get it all lined up. Maybe draw up a template with a couple straight edges or something. Well it looks good and good luck with the rest! Later. Jason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanter Posted August 5, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 the error was very very small. you can juuust see it when u zoom into the pic. if it was jsut any hole i would have left it, but because it was recessed so when i put my knob in it it seemed very off center. and the about the selector i dont know what i really want to do with it. im thinking of using a rotary selector which is a 3/8 in hole as opposed to the switch which is 1/2. we'll see. i need to machine out a knob for it so i can decide what i want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmrentis Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 Wow you did a real nice job in fixing it, I couldn't even tell that it was there, and even in the close up it doesn't stand out or anything. Good job man! Well good luck with the rest and keep us posted with pics! Later. Jason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User01 Posted August 6, 2005 Report Share Posted August 6, 2005 hey, where did you get these ultra flat pickup rings from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanter Posted August 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2005 ordered them from warmoth.com ~$7 a piece Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanter Posted August 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2005 MORE PICTURES!!!!! http://shantergenian.com/stufff/guitar_progress/20.jpg http://shantergenian.com/stufff/guitar_progress/21.jpg http://shantergenian.com/stufff/guitar_progress/33.jpg bandsaw's switch broke only a quick fix for now. http://shantergenian.com/stufff/guitar_progress/34.jpg http://shantergenian.com/stufff/guitar_progress/35.jpg http://shantergenian.com/stufff/guitar_progress/36.jpg http://shantergenian.com/stufff/guitar_progress/37.jpg http://shantergenian.com/stufff/guitar_progress/38.jpg http://shantergenian.com/stufff/guitar_progress/39.jpg endmill for a router bit! http://shantergenian.com/stufff/guitar_progress/40.jpg http://shantergenian.com/stufff/guitar_progress/41.jpg http://shantergenian.com/stufff/guitar_progress/43.jpg ill add some comments later. too tired now. i think ive decided on black stain or black paint with GLOSSY finish....i have to admit im in love with glossy finishes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanter Posted September 19, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 Back from the Dead!!!!!!!!!!! Ok, so ive been working on this as much as i possibly can. I wished to finish it before school began, but o well. anyways, i was getting down to the end where i would finally join the neck and body but sorta hit a speedbump on the way. things were going great, i carved a volute on the guitar and i loved it. http://www.shantergenian.com/stufff/new_prgress/DSCN0225.jpg then i attatched the fretboard and got ready to shape that down to the size of the neck. i had previously routed the mahogony down to the correct width and i was going to simply use a trim bit to clean it down. i dont know why i didnt go buy one (probly no $) but i instead used a scraper, a drill with a sander attatched and sandpaper to try and bring it down to shape. BAD IDEA. i drew a line there to compare a striaght line to what i had. (it was worse on the other side) http://www.shantergenian.com/stufff/new_prgress/DSCN0233.jpg ok so i thought about it for a few hours and finally came up with a solution. I went over to the tutorials seciton of PG and did some research. Start ironing http://www.shantergenian.com/stufff/new_prgress/DSCN0235.jpg Insert blade http://www.shantergenian.com/stufff/new_prgress/DSCN0238.jpg more ironing and a sharp scraper. http://www.shantergenian.com/stufff/new_prgress/DSCN0241.jpg Break FB. i didnt intend on breaking the FB but i didnt want to mess up the mahogony at all so i sacrafised it being that it was mt first time doing this. http://www.shantergenian.com/stufff/new_prgress/DSCN0243.jpg All done. http://www.shantergenian.com/stufff/new_prgress/DSCN0244.jpg After removing the FB i needed to route out two channels on the sides or the neck and glue two new pieces of mahogony to make the neck wider. Clamp down the neck. http://www.shantergenian.com/stufff/new_prgress/DSCN0256.jpg Put a straight guide down. http://www.shantergenian.com/stufff/new_prgress/DSCN0257.jpg Route. http://www.shantergenian.com/stufff/new_prgress/DSCN0258.jpg Route more. http://www.shantergenian.com/stufff/new_prgress/DSCN0259.jpg Route more more. http://www.shantergenian.com/stufff/new_prgress/DSCN0260.jpg So next i pulled out the table saw (with a fresh new blade) and cut three strips of mahogony out. http://www.shantergenian.com/stufff/new_prgress/DSCN0261.jpg Mock up and fitting. http://www.shantergenian.com/stufff/new_prgress/DSCN0262.jpg GLUE AND 20 CLAMPS (approx) http://www.shantergenian.com/stufff/new_prgress/DSCN0263.jpg MORE http://www.shantergenian.com/stufff/new_prgress/DSCN0265.jpg MORE 2 http://www.shantergenian.com/stufff/new_prgress/DSCN0267.jpg So then after the glue dried a few days i took it to my dads shop and tried to clean it smooth with the bridgeport, but that proved tobe a failure. so i brought it home and cleaned it up by hand. Niceee http://www.shantergenian.com/stufff/new_prgress/DSCN0303.jpg niceee 2 http://www.shantergenian.com/stufff/new_prgress/DSCN0305.jpg Top. http://www.shantergenian.com/stufff/new_prgress/DSCN0306.jpg Back. http://www.shantergenian.com/stufff/new_prgress/DSCN0301.jpg So now im waiting on a 10" radius FB form warmoth. Its due on the 21st of this month. once that comes in ill post some more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmrentis Posted September 20, 2005 Report Share Posted September 20, 2005 Sweet! Clean fix to a terrible problem. I can't wait to see how that turns out, I think that fix will turn out great, after thinking about it, if I ever make that mistake and have to go that route, I might use a different wood to make it seem like a laminate instead of a fix, but either way good stuff man. Good luck. Jason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanter Posted September 20, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2005 i did think of using another type of wood, but i didnt have anything on hand...and i couldnt sleep knowing that this problem would go unfixed. ill make a laminate neck next time. now im just waiting for my new FB. im at work now so im hoping someone is home to recieve it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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