bombershredder Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 The SpeedLoader Tremolo offers all the versatility of the original Floyd Rose Tremolo™ with the ease and performance of the SpeedLoader System. You can still execute the most subtle tremolo or wildest dive-bombing effects and return to perfect tuning every time. The SpeedLoader tremolo also features the new Floyd Rose TremStopper that enables the player to block the tremolo system with a simple turn of a screw No tremstopper on the original. itd be kinda cool..would it be possible to understand what and how the tremstoppers stopping on the speedloader and then experimenting with making it on any other cheap floyd rose copy and using it for yourself at home and not marketing it.. .. also is it possible to make a splut floating bridge like the one steve vai has on one of hisguitars..preferably for an 8 stringer..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegarehanman Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 You can get the equivalent to the tremstopper for any tremelo. It's called the "tremel-no" www.tremolno.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnewman Posted October 14, 2005 Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 You can get the equivalent to the tremstopper for any tremelo. It's called the "tremel-no" www.tremolno.com ← As good as the tremol-no is... and as bad as I want one... it doesn't work on every trem . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegarehanman Posted October 14, 2005 Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 (edited) no? Q- Will the Tremol-No™ fit on any/all guitars? A- The Tremol-No™ will work on almost every tremolo equipped guitar built since 1954. The rule of thumb is: If you've got 2, 3, 4 or 5 springs in the back of your guitar, you can probably install a Tremol-No™ in it. If you have questions about a certain trem, or something that's non-standard, please feel free to contact us. Include front and back pictures of the guitar and of the tremolo unit. The only kind of trems that I could imagine it not working on would be a guitar with no rear tremelo cavity(ie bigsbies, jaguars, etc) Edited October 14, 2005 by thegarehanman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted October 14, 2005 Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 As far as I know, you can buy a slightly modified version for just about every tremolo made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevan Posted October 14, 2005 Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 The Tremol-No will work on about 98% of the trems out there today. There are only a VERY FEW exceptions, aside from the obvious ones (Bigsby, Steinberger, Wonderbar, etc). If you're looking for a FR TremStopper for your guitar, check the hardware department at HomeDepot. For $0.99 you can pick up a 2-pack of small zinc L-brackets. Another $0.49 for a 4-pack of wood screws. Yours won't be chrome, but....it's basically the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegarehanman Posted October 14, 2005 Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 (edited) What kevan means to say is...go buy yourself a tremolno and have a blast with your new toy. Edited October 14, 2005 by thegarehanman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevan Posted October 14, 2005 Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 Well, you can't buy a Tremol-No quite yet, but you will be able to in a few weeks. A little patience and you'll be a happy camper. also is it possible to make a splut floating bridge like the one steve vai has on one of hisguitars..preferably for an 8 stringer..?I forgot to answer this one. Yes, and no. Yes- it is possible. With some serious engineering and machine work, you *could* have an 8-string, split trem built. It'd probably cost you more than a new Kia, but it could be done. The other big stumbling block for that projects would be that no one makes an 8-string trem. Yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goth_fiend Posted October 14, 2005 Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 kevan If I remember right jeremy said that hipshot infact do make an 8 string trem, but its much more expensive then the standard bridge (please correct me if im wrong) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevan Posted October 14, 2005 Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 Goth- you're close. Hipshot *will* do an 8-string trem. You just need to cough up the cash first. It's not part of their regular lineup. As far as price, I honestly don't know. LGM has more info on it than I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goth_fiend Posted October 14, 2005 Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 I didnt want to put words in anybodies mouth, so thanks for the clarification, i knew they were available, i just didnt know how (you could always go with conklin...just make sure you have enough money to buy a ferrari first though! ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bombershredder Posted October 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2005 hmm a tremol no would be a complete waste if i can get a tremolo with an on and off switch. But what i still dont understand is why Floyd Rose would put it ONLY on a speedloader. How would i go about making a 6/7/8/ custom tremolo bridge if i find out what i need to do for it(i have no clue) how much would it cost? and how much would it cost to set up a home-ish shop for making custom bridges.. considering setting up your guitar workshop is now SO easy with so many resoursec and so much information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegarehanman Posted October 15, 2005 Report Share Posted October 15, 2005 If you want to build floyd rose copies with on/off switches...well you'd better plan on spending some serious $. This is a pretty unrealistic idea, unless you were to buy all of the saddles and misc. floyd parts, two trem blocks(so you could cut them up and weld them together to make an 8 string block), and bend the base plate by hand. You still would have a lot of machining to do and it might not turn out accurate enough to even work well. This task requires a lot more accuracy and forethought; that said, if you plan on actually building one, start reading about floyds and studying every screw and washer of their anatomy. peace, russ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bombershredder Posted October 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2005 If you want to build floyd rose copies with on/off switches...well you'd better plan on spending some serious $. This is a pretty unrealistic idea, unless you were to buy all of the saddles and misc. floyd parts, two trem blocks(so you could cut them up and weld them together to make an 8 string block), and bend the base plate by hand. You still would have a lot of machining to do and it might not turn out accurate enough to even work well. This task requires a lot more accuracy and forethought; that said, if you plan on actually building one, start reading about floyds and studying every screw and washer of their anatomy. peace, russ ← i guess its not practicle/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevan Posted October 16, 2005 Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 Russ- Maybe I'm getting old (they say that memory is the 2nd thing to go), but I don't remember any washers on the FR systems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegarehanman Posted October 16, 2005 Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 (edited) ...and that's very, very likely. I am definitely not a tremolo man. I'm probably putting a stetsbar on my next project, but that's as far as I care to take it. To be honest, I've never really torn appart a Floyd; that's not to say that I'd ever feel the urge to anyhow. None the less, everything I said is valid, besides the washer part I suppose . By the way, has the "first thing" "gone" yet? If so, you seem to be coping quite well. Edited October 16, 2005 by thegarehanman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bombershredder Posted October 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 (edited) there aren't? So tremolos are made out of what?..iron..steel..? im guessing prob the know how will be a pain..and the machinery will be quite expensive..who knows maybe i come up with something unique and different.. it might not be AS practicle as making a guitar where you're just messing around with wood which is comparatively easier to..um change the shape of..but im sure theres not MUCH of a difference and with a little practice on some cheap copies and what not dont you think its possible..maybe there are things i dont know and when and if i do take it up i might just realise ..hey..this aint possible its too expensive! and also maybe itll take TOO MUCH TIME UP..but i guess its kinda worth having an eight..custom with a split tremolo..to me atleast better than having a fixed bridge! But to what i am aware of right now.. man.. someones already done all of the work..i just have to study their work and expand on it.. not like im gonna sell the product its just for my use and theres always a possibility of coming up with something thats totally original.. ..and i might be allowed to gig with it..cause there are some leal issues which ill look into.. but even after that guess itall comes down to how much its gonna cost and how much time its gonna take... mand its actually worth it.. so what are bridges made of steel..iron? ..wool?.. Edited October 16, 2005 by bombershredder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevan Posted October 16, 2005 Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 Even if you did a one-off just for yourself, I'd expect a C&D letter from the guys who make the 'Double Whammy'. My suggestion to you would be: Reading. Lots and lots of reading. I'll get ya started.... -Tremolo systems are made from a variety of metals. Everything from Titanium to Brass to Zinc to pot metal. -Some use cast parts; others will use extruded or machined parts. Some (like Joe Driskill's) don't even have parts! His are one-piece! Crazy stuff. Ok, now go read more. Lots more. www.google.com (And do me one favor: Work on the spelling/grammar a little. Thanks.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum5545 Posted October 16, 2005 Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 If you want to do amateur machining at a semi-reasonable price, check out http://www.emachineshop.com/ Do a design, price check it, and have it shipped--it's really that simple. A crazy cool program & business. If you have the know-how to design a tremolo, they have the tools to machine it for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bombershredder Posted October 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 Great! Kevan, what's a C&D letter? Cheating and drinking? lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegarehanman Posted October 16, 2005 Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 C&D="Cease and Desist"=An order to stop production before legal actions are taken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattia Posted October 17, 2005 Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 (edited) If you make it yourself, for personal use, you can do whatever you want to, even use trademarked/patented designs/technologies. Having someone else make it for you may very well get you in trouble, as would trying to sell the thing. Edited October 17, 2005 by mattia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bombershredder Posted October 17, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 (edited) yeah if i make it and keep it inside my house and stuff i dont think it will matter. I have a tremolo which says - licensed under floyd rose patents..what does that mean? Edited October 17, 2005 by bombershredder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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