Nitefly SA Posted October 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2005 (has crappy peavey backstage amp) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff Beer Man Posted October 23, 2005 Report Share Posted October 23, 2005 I looked around the board (used search) and cant seem the find the thread that tells how to put the high pass filter on the pot, i wanna do this on my new jem im building, could someone link me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitefly SA Posted October 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2005 there is a wiring diagram at the top of this page, you silly goose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord-of-the-strings Posted October 23, 2005 Report Share Posted October 23, 2005 He's just turning the knob until it comes to a semi-clean tone. There is no gain circuit. I can do it myself and I have a shitty Ibanez rg 420. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Marossy Posted October 23, 2005 Report Share Posted October 23, 2005 That high pass filter is also known as a "treble bleed cap" in some circles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TenderSurrender Posted October 23, 2005 Report Share Posted October 23, 2005 Ive been using the "roll back" technique for some time now, Found it brilliant for quickly going between distortion and "clean" whilst away from the pedal board... Now my question is, If i attached a treble bleed cap on the vol' pot as suggested a few times in here, how much of a differerence will it really make, and will it be much better then what i currently do? Cheers guys ~~ SA ~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovekraft Posted October 23, 2005 Report Share Posted October 23, 2005 ...how much of a differerence will it really make, and will it be much better then what i currently do?It will make an audible difference - trying to quantify the subjective amount of difference, and especially whether it'll be better or worse is something only your ears can tell you. A cap shouild run you less than a dollar - try it and see! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Marossy Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 That Ibanez wiring diagram linked earlier in this thread uses a 330pF cap. I have used 0.001uF caps on my guitars to good effect (which is also easier to get from somewhere like RadioShack). If that's still not enough for you, you could use a 0.0022uF cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemleggat Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 Here a pic of said guitar taking with a camera phone. Just volume and tone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jer7440 Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 This may be a stupid question but here it goes: If you roll off the volume on your guitar to clean up the tone, don't you also have a significant volume drop? If so how are you compensating for it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegarehanman Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 If you're cautious about how you use the volume knob, and your amp volume and gain are cranked enough, you could get away with a less noticable volume drop. Another possibility would be to have a volume pedal after your gain circuit. That way you'd be lowering the volume on your guitar which is effectively lowering the amount of output of the gain pedal while keeping the overall volume at a constant by raising the volume with a volume pedal. However, that second option seems unlikely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorecki Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 This may be a stupid question but here it goes: If you roll off the volume on your guitar to clean up the tone, don't you also have a significant volume drop? If so how are you compensating for it? ← It really depends on how 'gain' is attained, usually cleaner passages aren't as 'loud' as distorted ones anyway. I think the cause and effect is considerably more obvious with tubed gear vs solid state. In getting high gain out of tubes, natural compression kicks in and when that heat is reduced the quazi compression effect is as well. So, a higher gain setting on tubes with the volume on the guitar somewhere around 2 will give a cleaner (varies) sound with the ability to bite on a hard stroke. So, it sounds as if the desire is to recreate the sonic range of a big tubed amp with a little peavey solid state, you'll be at it a while. This almost sounds like some starters I've run into, "I want that Malmsteen sound...well, go buy a few Marshall stacks, a pricy audio engineer and *start* from there because that 15 watt Crate combo isn't gonna cut it." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegarehanman Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 That tube amp thing is a valid point. My original statement about the volume knob was based off of my experiences with tube amps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitefly SA Posted October 26, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 im not looking to get his sound cause i dont have a couple grand to toss at a carvin, but i was curious how he did it, now i know, thanks everybody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammy Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 Lots of guitarist's use the same technique, myself included. It'll work on virtually all full valve amps - they don't have to be special. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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