mailman Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 (edited) http://www.deanguitars.com/userpics/lib5/s...20by%20side.jpg http://www.deanguitars.com/userpics/lib5/DSC03652.JPG For the sake of argument going on at the dean guitars forum.....what kinda wood is this? I say Indian Rosewood (or a laminate thereof) Another guy says Zebrawood ....a few others were way off saying it was ash So yeah, you wood experts....what is this? Edited November 4, 2005 by mailman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Mariah Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 I'd second rosewood of some kind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fryovanni Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 Pau Ferro. , Looks pretty light for finished IRW. Peace,Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mailman Posted November 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 Pau Ferro. , Looks pretty light for finished IRW. Peace,Rich ← heres a pic of an acoustic in IRW: http://www.hoffmanguitars.com/WOODS1-4.jpg so i thought they matched up pretty well doesnt pau ferro have too big of figuring between to be this? cuz this is pretty much dark and light parallel lining Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HVX Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 I'm going to jump in with my first post here and throw my theory out there. That could very well be a rosewood. I have a couple of small pieces of Bolivian RW that has similar dark and light chocolate striping to the picture. It could be Brazilian RW, too. Most of the East Indian RW I've encountered was very purple, but I wouldn't rule it out, either. I don't know how Dean makes their guitars, but I would suspect it may be a veneer, at that, since there doesn't appear to be a lot of "deep carving" in the curves and contours of the top and back. I'm inclined to say that it's not Zebrawood, as it has more contrasts between light and dark striations. Just my thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mailman Posted November 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 its not a dean guitar, its a "National" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fryovanni Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 Pau Ferro. , Looks pretty light for finished IRW. Peace,Rich ← heres a pic of an acoustic in IRW: http://www.hoffmanguitars.com/WOODS1-4.jpg so i thought they matched up pretty well doesnt pau ferro have too big of figuring between to be this? cuz this is pretty much dark and light parallel lining ← Hmmm.. I am not quite sure what you mean by too big of figuring. That is a dead ringer for well quarter sawn Pau Ferro(I have acoustic sets and drop tops just like that). It is possible it is IRW, the color is just a bit lighter than I am used to seeing. That said I have seen lighter pieces of IRW and even Darker Pau Ferro. It would be a hella expensive piece of Brazillian and maybe a bit light (I kinda ruled that one out), but who knows. Really it could be any one of several types of rosewood. The two most cost effective and plentiful enough for large production would be Pau Ferro and IRW. Kinda fun to guess Peace,Rich Here is one of my dry Pau Ferro tops (it gets a few shades darker with finish). P.S. I hope I added that pic correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HVX Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 its not a dean guitar, its a "National" ← D'oh. Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mailman Posted November 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 as long as its either rosewood or pau ferro that fine i just needa win the argument cuz i hate this guy and he's acting so smart saying its zebrawood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fryovanni Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 Really not likely it's Zebrawood (even if it is dyed that color). The darker grain in Zebrawood tends to be wider Dry Zebrawood- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!!METAL MATT!! Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 That is rosewood, I would put money on it But not much maybe like A Buck !!METAL MATT!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_A_T_T Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 Pau Ferro is a good answer. Looking at the guitar, it's a laminated top and back with a bolt-on neck. I'm guessing an older import? Pau Ferro would be cheaper than Rosewood, seems more likely an older import would use the cheaper woods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattia Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 Pau Ferro or East Indian would be my guesses. It doesn't look much like brazilian (even given the incredible variety there is in brazilian rosewoon). East Indian can range anywhere from light brown to deep, deep purple. The top quality sets are generally the deeper, more purple coloured ones, simply because they're more desirable. Various EIR fingerboards, in various shades, f'r instance: http://www.xs4all.nl/~mvalente/guitarpics3/fb_eir.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stiggz Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 another for rosewood here, but straying from the topic papua new guinea rosewood, it has a swirling and circling grain in patches, and dead staight in others, worth a look IMO luke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drak Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 I think Rich is right. It has exactly the grain of EIR, I have pieces right here that look exactly like it, and I've used other types of Rosewood before and they do not look like that, and I've used Zebrawood and it is definitely not Zebrawood, not even close. I have not used Pau Ferro before, but I've seen it in my wood guy's store and I think Rich is right on the money in that it has the coloring of PF moreso than EIR which I think, as Rich does, that is the deciding factor in the end, but it 'could' be EIR too, I can't completely rule that out. Except to say that I think that is a pressed laminate top, and Rosewood is more expensive and harder to bend/press than PF would be, so taking into consideration which wood a manufacturer would normally opt out to (cheaper/easier) I would lean back to PF again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveq Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 My vote would be Bolivian Rosewood (Pau Ferro). I know this wood all too well. I spent 3 weeks in agony from working with it. Hives like I have never had before and never hope to have again. It's hard to say if it really is Bolivian Rosewood since it does look similar to Indian Rosewood. If I had to bet, my bet would be Bolivian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorecki Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 Sure looks like Rosewood to me too. Nice lookin guitar though, got character! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mailman Posted November 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 god....cant convince the guy he just keeps saying its STAINED zebrawood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fryovanni Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 god....cant convince the guy he just keeps saying its STAINED zebrawood ← Time to just let it go . There is no way to prove it anyway. If he can't see the obvious, what can you do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mailman Posted November 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 he also rejects the notion that he looks like Johnny Damon (in spite of me proving he does, albeit older) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setch Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 Never wrestle a pig - look end up covered in muck, and the pig will enjoy it It's clearly some kind of RW - my first guess was EI, but Pau Ferro is a good call too. It's clearly not zebrano, the striping looks too tight, and too regular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackburncustomguitars Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 HI, To me, it looks like Andean rosewood. I've used it before and it looked remarkably similar. I have also been wrong before....regularly, actually. Peace, Davehttp://www.deanguitars.com/userpics/lib5/s...20by%20side.jpg http://www.deanguitars.com/userpics/lib5/DSC03652.JPG For the sake of argument going on at the dean guitars forum.....what kinda wood is this? I say Indian Rosewood (or a laminate thereof) Another guy says Zebrawood ....a few others were way off saying it was ash So yeah, you wood experts....what is this? ← Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassman Posted November 5, 2005 Report Share Posted November 5, 2005 I have some cocobolo that looks just like that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_A_T_T Posted November 5, 2005 Report Share Posted November 5, 2005 I have some cocobolo that looks just like that... ← That ain't cocobolo, it's not red/orange enough. It can also be toxic and hard to glue, so I doubt a manufacturer would have used that. My vote would be Bolivian Rosewood (Pau Ferro). I know this wood all too well. I spent 3 weeks in agony from working with it. Hives like I have never had before and never hope to have again. It's hard to say if it really is Bolivian Rosewood since it does look similar to Indian Rosewood. If I had to bet, my bet would be Bolivian. Last time I worked with it, it was an absolute DREAM! I love pau Ferro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fryovanni Posted November 5, 2005 Report Share Posted November 5, 2005 I have some cocobolo that looks just like that... ← That ain't cocobolo, it's not red/orange enough. It can also be toxic and hard to glue, so I doubt a manufacturer would have used that. My vote would be Bolivian Rosewood (Pau Ferro). I know this wood all too well. I spent 3 weeks in agony from working with it. Hives like I have never had before and never hope to have again. It's hard to say if it really is Bolivian Rosewood since it does look similar to Indian Rosewood. If I had to bet, my bet would be Bolivian. Last time I worked with it, it was an absolute DREAM! I love pau Ferro. ← 2nd. the not likely Cocobolo. Pau Ferro is great stuff. To me it ranks very high all the way around. Sounds great, tuff enough for fretboards, looks great, nice strength, stable, not overly hard on the tools, and is still priced reasonably(only slightly more than Genuine Mahogany, less than half the price of Cocobolo). I have found it to be a bit better to work with than EIR. Peace,Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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