cpsmaxima Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 I love it! This looks FANTASTIC! Great job. Can't wait to see this finished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prostheta Posted November 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 Looks very nice! I quite like bound fretboards. Throw some shellac or sanding sealer on that maple before you get too far on the finer-grit sanding. The ebony and padauk dust will work its way in and dirty up the maple, and you'll tear your hair out trying to remove it. Thanks for the shellac tip Erik. It was a consideration as I've been using acetone to pull dust out of the grain so far, but it seems to lift the majority and set the rest deeper The dark marks on the maple are actually me being clumsy and almost throwing a bottle of black dye around the room instead of eaking a small amout out to dye the inside of the truss rod adjustment slot. Not sanding dust! No, I wasn't pouring it in before anybody suggests it I was just too close your honour. Any issues with shellac and Tru-oil, as that is the destined finish for the project? I have to say that the Tru-oil tests I've done on scrap padauk and bloodwood are *spectacular* with a capital "spectacular". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted November 22, 2006 Report Share Posted November 22, 2006 Careful with Acetone around oily woods and light woods. You'll pull the oil out of the oily dark woods and stain the lighter ones. I'd recommend Naptha over Acetone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prostheta Posted November 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2006 Thanks Jon - I've borne this one in mind and used it sparingly so as not to contaminate the woods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted November 22, 2006 Report Share Posted November 22, 2006 Thanks Jon - I've borne this one in mind and used it sparingly so as not to contaminate the woods. Don't get me wrong - it works just as well. But you're pulling out the oils when you do it which means you have to use it very carefully, as you are. But Acetone exaporates much much more quickly than Naptha, so you'll get even more out of Naptha. Not that you're soaking your guitar in it, or anything. I'm sure there are some types of brushes out there that can also help you pull the wood dust out so you don't have to use as much chemicals to keep your project clean. I have yet to find that right brush, I think I'll use an old toothbrush! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prostheta Posted November 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 UPDATE!! I glued the body up sometime last week and spent some time planing both faces flat yesterday. I traced the body and roughly cut it using the bandsaw, before moving onto my new more powerful variable speed router and using the ol' guided bearing bits. Pilot holes were drilled where the bridge and tailpiece will be seated because my pencil marks will be erased soon enough! The carving is being done by hand of course. I'm dropping the raised edges in favour of a more streamlined look which I think will suit the flamed maple so much more. The horns are being carved down almost to the pinstripe to reduce their thickness and apparent bulk. The back will be a nice simple routered radius carve. Body blank rough bandsawn Rough outline and pop shot of the maple Still in the rough stages of carve hence the uneven sides! LARGER VERSION OF ABOVE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travismoore Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 Looking HOT! Nice work =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verhoevenc Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 I thought this was going to be a neckthru... so why did you build a full body, and not just wings?! Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 I thought this was going to be a neckthru... so why did you build a full body, and not just wings?! Chris My exact thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prostheta Posted November 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 It's semi-neck-thru in that the top covers everything, and the tenon is extended through the back. Either that, or I could waste loads of that gorgeous maple for ya :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travismoore Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 (edited) Well like warwick thumb through necks are done? I love the way they do those =) I was playing on a thumb that used to belong to ryan from mudvayne the other day it was so AWSOME! Edited November 27, 2006 by travismoore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prostheta Posted November 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 Exactly the same way Travis - good example, and very close to home too :-D I actually picked up on the idea from Alembic, but hey - it seems the idea is fairly common! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travismoore Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 Ya i just love warwicks my brothers freind just recently got that limit edition thumb dirty blonde those things are SOOO awsome i really do hate him now lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prostheta Posted November 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 (edited) I saw a dirty blonde in Electromusic and spotted several things I didn't like about it, but then again Warwick make AWESOME gear. Isn't the dirty blonde a bolt-on or something? Oh yes: UPDATE!! Done a bit more carving on the sides of the body. Simple technique of running a big ol' chamfer bit in the router around the perimeter then using chisels and planes to create flat inclines up to the top carve "break point" where it becomes flat. Dirty method, but visceral and satisfying. As you can see, I've opened out the "side bits" a bit purely because the lack of the rounded edge as per the original makes them looks out of proportion. I just need to set up the router table before running the chamfer bit around the entirety of the guitar again. There was never enough flat surface area to work with reliably by hand routing so table it is! Actually, I'm really enjoying posting up in progress pics that aren't perfect or clean. No camera opportunities here in rough work land :-D The nice pics start arriving when 80 grit paper comes into play! Larger version of above Another carve shot Edited November 27, 2006 by Prostheta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travismoore Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 Looking awsome ! Im not sure if dirty blonde is bolt-on or thru but i was pritty sure it was thru My brothers freind whent to get a streamer stage 1 but played dirty blonde and he recons its way better =) Hay but every one wants something different from a bass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prostheta Posted November 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 Do they? Oh, they must be drummers or autoharp players or something. You hold down the core of the band and nobody gives you credit. Typical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inisheer Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 I'm dropping the raised edges in favour of a more streamlined look which I think will suit the flamed maple so much more. The horns are being carved down almost to the pinstripe to reduce their thickness and apparent bulk.Cool! I've always loved the Vampyre shape (I think I've said that before ) but I didn't really think the raised edges really worked too well. If I could change the warwick version to make it perfect, it would look like yours. Keep up the good work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prostheta Posted November 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 (edited) Slight update. I spent time tonight routing the pickup holes. I've decided to make it slightly different and install two differently sized pickups (EMG 45 and a 40) firstly as I already have one of them (45DC) and therefore it makes it more economically sensible at the moment. I was saving the 45DC for the eight-string but since I'm playing bass with Detonal State I can safely put guitars into secondary lines. I also routed the mounting hole for the tailpiece as this is sunken into the body, same as the mounting block for the bridge (genuine Warwick parts). A bit more contouring and carving was done on the bottom, but until I get the router table up and running I'm leaving this till the weekend I think. Apologies for the crappy looking photos. The flash of the camera and the artificial lighting makes it look really really awful. In reality it's only finished to 80 grit with a bit of steel wool rubbing to remove dust. Larger version of above Yet another carve shot Edited November 28, 2006 by Prostheta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 Lookin' good! You could purchase another 45DC and make a 6-string. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prostheta Posted November 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 (edited) Indeed I could, but I prefer to spend time crushing instead of noodling :-D I'm not a harp player like some ERBs!! I'm really looking forward to completing this project. I'm still in two minds whether or not to carve the edges down within a few mm of the pinstripe, and leave faux binding and go for a dyed top or whether to finish 100% natural and Tru-oil everything. I'm highly tempted to dye the maple black or perhaps a deep black stripe under red. Any feedback on how Tru-oil will work over dyed figures? Edited November 28, 2006 by Prostheta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 I'd stick with a clear finish for dyed tops - I don't know if tro-oil will give you the look you want. Or even if it's compatible. I understand without needing 6-strings - I rarely use more than 4 strings on one song with my band. My old metal band was completely different though, I used every string possible just to keep up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prostheta Posted November 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 Hahaha...I'm from a different school though really. I'm all for technicality in moderation but plain solidity and having a tight rhythm section is much more essential! My favourite example of a bassist on these lines has to be Nikki Sixx of course. Simple, thundering and just *there* on the dot, man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 I'll try not to post too much more to take this thread way off topic. I agree - often less is more, It all depends how it's done. I was listening to some songs on your MySpace and came across one song by Meshuggah. I love that tone, that driving pick bass style dominates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prostheta Posted November 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 Oddly enough, we're dropping Domination into our December gigs :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inisheer Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 I'm highly tempted to dye the maple black or perhaps a deep black stripe under red. YES!!! If you dyed it black then red, it would be perfect IMO. If you do it like that and enter in gotm when it's finished I promise you'll get my vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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