westhemann Posted October 7, 2003 Report Share Posted October 7, 2003 hey, would something like this work well for accurate routing? someone suggested that this would be a good kind of all around tool for accurate routing and as a drill press also,and i really think it might be just the thing.i figure lgm,with his machine shop bacground might be able to tell me about this tool,but maybe some of the rest of you are familiar,too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Rosenberger Posted October 7, 2003 Report Share Posted October 7, 2003 I dont think that would be good for wood routing because of the speed. Wood routers speeds are way faster than that thing will go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted October 7, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2003 yeah i know about the lower rpm....i guess what attracts me to it is that the table will move in a clean straight line without the use of a template Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krazyderek Posted October 8, 2003 Report Share Posted October 8, 2003 you might be better off buying a 2 way adjustable vise for your existing drill press sticking a board with a spine nailed to the board in the vise then holding your guitar to the board with double stick tape and/or clamps, but again, don't you need like 15000rpm to use router bits on hardwoods? I've often wondered about putting a router bit in my drill press kinda of like a poor mans pin router... but how many rpm's are required for routing wood? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted October 8, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2003 it moves with wheels...like an etch a sketch....makes perfectly straight lines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krazyderek Posted October 8, 2003 Report Share Posted October 8, 2003 so does this vise doesn't it??? it has to 2 wheels on either side in addition to the vise knob, once you get everything rigged up you have 3" of travel in any direction from center, or do i not get what you mean at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Rosenberger Posted October 8, 2003 Report Share Posted October 8, 2003 I was looking at that. It would be great for milling truss rod channels if the length of travel permitted it to move that far. I didnt see the travel length in the specs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted October 8, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2003 I was looking at that. It would be great for milling truss rod channels if the length of travel permitted it to move that far. I didnt see the travel length in the specs a smaller one by the same companytravels 9" so i think you would probably have to move it and reclamp for the truss rod derek...you are right that vise will move the same way...but 3" may not be enough...and i am not sure about the tolerances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krazyderek Posted October 8, 2003 Report Share Posted October 8, 2003 maybe a neck pocket or pickup cavity, if you're creative, i'll have to go take a look at it in the store and measure for myself. but there's no way it could do a truss rod if that's what you wanted it for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted October 8, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2003 i like the idea of the milling machine for neck pockets(as if i will ever make a neck pocket) or control cavitys or pickup cavities...or even the truss rod,if you were careful when resetting.... the thing is i don't use templates for my control cavities...i make them different depending on the controls i use and the shape of the guitar,so i think for "freehand" routing of those caviteis it might be cool...i just want to know if i am overlooking a negative..or if someone has one and it sucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsera Posted October 13, 2003 Report Share Posted October 13, 2003 Hi Wes, I was looking into one of these and they are to small to do any guitar work as far as I could see.I have seen some for this work and the cheapest was $2600 and completely motorized so you could do CNC work with it. If you are still wanting to buy this machine there are alot of CNC groups on yahoo that have detailed instructions on how to rebuild this into a CNC machine and hook it up to your PC and let CAD take care of the rest .I would let a machinist adjust it so you have a proper zero point otherwise you will and up with a piece of scrap wood in the end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted October 13, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2003 update...i went to harbor freight and saw one of these in person.i believe they could be used but the one that would be most useful was $1000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted October 13, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2003 this one i will eventually get one,but at that price it will be a while Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feylya Posted October 13, 2003 Report Share Posted October 13, 2003 We just got one of those at home but methinks the father won't let me near the thing with wood. Should be able to get round him though. Question: what are the advantage of using a milling machine for guitar making? I'm a bit tired so that probably why I can't figure it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krazyderek Posted October 13, 2003 Report Share Posted October 13, 2003 routing straight lines... no worries of the bit grabbing to much wood and your router flying off course, cause the wood moves via turning handles how are you planning on holding the guitar to that metal plate wes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feylya Posted October 13, 2003 Report Share Posted October 13, 2003 Hmmm, nice, straight pickup cavities I believe my dad is currently converting the mill to a CNC mill Tiger Claw trem anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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feylya Posted October 13, 2003 Report Share Posted October 13, 2003 Maybe I'll do ya a good deal on one, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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feylya Posted October 13, 2003 Report Share Posted October 13, 2003 Whoo, what's the deal with that? To get at the lockers? Mmm, seven string, has to be my first guitar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krazyderek Posted October 13, 2003 Report Share Posted October 13, 2003 acutally it's for a hardtail.... to adjust the intonation screws cause i sank the bridge, i just used some chisels and some sand paper wrapeed around a drill bit to do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feylya Posted October 13, 2003 Report Share Posted October 13, 2003 Cool. Don't suppose you have any pics of the finished guitar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted October 13, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2003 routing straight lines... no worries of the bit grabbing to much wood and your router flying off course, cause the wood moves via turning handles how are you planning on holding the guitar to that metal plate wes? i wanted to bolt a pice of wood to the support table big enough to properly support a body,and i would probably drill holes all in it that i could run spool clamps through.(holes in the wooden support,not the guitar) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feylya Posted October 13, 2003 Report Share Posted October 13, 2003 I used to use a fairly big CNC mill in a factory I used to work in. All the had was a sheet of wood, with a block screwed to it and a clamp device thing opposite the block, just far enough away that the wood to be mill could fit easily until you closed the clamp. Very simple but worked rather well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted October 13, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2003 btw feyla,great member title Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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