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I'm a relative noobe (or is it newbee, or nuB?) around here, but have been known to hang out at a few other places on the World Wide Web. So, if you've seen this all before, I apologize, but I thought in case there were one or two of you out there who hadn't seen this stuff yet, you might enjoy it.

For those of you who don't know me, I'm a guitar collector (Les Pauls), an infrequent guitar player, and now a part-time guitar builder. Until late last year, I was building half scale replicas of Les Pauls (called "Less Talls"), primarily for art/display purposes. The latest chapter in the Less Tall saga began this past November. I was debating what project I wanted to take on next, and was thinking I’d like to make something bigger and fully functional/playable this time, but still not full-size. Then, out of the blue, I was contacted by Matte Henderson, an accomplished guitarist and session musician who, as luck would have it, lives just 20 minutes from me. He had heard of my work, and was looking for someone to build him a Les Paul style octave guitar, for use on-stage, and in the studio. The timing was perfect, and so was the project. Thus was born the Less Tall Octave guitar.

In two months time, I went from concept, to (almost) playable guitar. I say almost, because I was still waiting for some (Pigtail) hardware, plus the pickup. Otherwise, the construction was completed on the prototype except for the MOP headstock logo, which I was still waiting to receive from my vendor. This prototype, and all the guitars to follow, feature a Honduran mahogany back and neck (long tenon, of course), figured maple cap and Brazilian rosewood fingerboard (with vintage style inlays).

And, for those of you who may not be familiar with what an octave guitar is, it’s a smallish guitar with a short fret scale (in my case approx. 14 ¾ inches) and a normal width fingerboard, that’s tuned one full octave higher than a normal guitar.

Here's a photo of day one of constuction of the first prototype:

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And here's that same prototype completed (in an unfinished state...which is where it still is)

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Here's a photo of my completed prototype #2:

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And below are some pics of the guitar I built for Matte, which will hopefully be in his hands within the next week or two (clips to follow, I'm sure). I finally got around to finishing it up last week. I had to wait a month for the lacquer to dry, and then illness struck, forcing me to be sidelined for a few additional weeks. Anyway, here is the finished product:

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And lastly, here's an indoor shot of that same guitar to show how dramatically different this peek-a-boo flame can look under different lighting conditions:

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I hope you like it!

Frank

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how cute is that!!

i wonder how a pair of mini humbuckers would look

Thanks!

I already have been playing around with that concept a bit (in fact, that was going to be my first design, until Matte told me he wanted just one pickup). I plan to make one like that (I already have the mini-hums), but the problem is, it's quite crowded that way, between trying to squeeze in a toggle switch, and another couple of knobs...but I will try it one of these days.

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OOH! I love it! Great attention to detail, and I love the name ("Less Tall" Ha!).

What does it say in place of "Gibson?" I'm having trouble reading it.

Thanks doug!

Here's what the headstock says (in addition to "Less Tall Octave"):

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Thats awesome!

I was looking at bits of scrap wood and thinking about an electric mandolin in the shape of a les paul or a les paul double cut as shown in melvyn hiscocks book!

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Very cool! I love it!!!

Reminds me very much, conceptually, of the 4 string 2/3 scale (17" scale length) guitar that I'm finishing up right now. I should have it wired up this weekend. Anyway, great job and great attention to detail. These little ones are fun to build, and i've discovered they are more difficult than full sized in some ways.

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That thing looks pretty cool! I would probably be incapable of playing such a shot scale instrumet as I have difficulty with regular gibsonspast fret 12 and have never attempted playing something of half that scale!

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Beautiful work!!!

I assume you use normal string gauges, since the scale length is ~half of a normal guitar scale?

Thanks, Geo! These guitars actually use 8 gauge strings. Otherwise, the neck tension would be unbearable.

True, I guess that would be the same tension as a 28" scale or something.

"electric mandolin in the shape of a les paul or a les paul double cut as shown in melvyn hiscocks book!"

Yeah, I always thought that picture was awesome! It would be a pretty easy project I imagine.

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Can you take a picture of it next to a full sized Les Paul for comparison?

I think this is the first and only time I will ever use "cute" to describe a guitar. :D

or even better you holding it for that comedy giant look!

GEO that was my thinking! I think its my favourite picture in the book! plus i love playing my mandolin i already have but its not exactly rock and roll looking!

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Thanks again for all the nice comments, guys.

Happy to oblige with the photos. Here's one showing my prototype with a full size Les Paul, and "Baby Duane", my half scale replica of Duane Allman's Les Paul:

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And I don't have a picture of me with the guitar, but here's one of my buddy Nick Morgan, guitar player and builder extraordinaire, who played one my guitars for a whole set at a jam a couple of months ago:

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:D

mate thats fantastically funny! do they open up and fit instide each other?

the tiniest one does it actually play?

Guitar of the month please i've decided!

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the tiniest one does it actually play?

The tiny one is one of my half scale "Less Tall" guitars. It is exactly half scale in every respect, except for two things: 1) it does not currently have a working pickup in it (all other electronics are in there); and, 2) the tuners, although they look like they are fully functional, are really dummy covers for the alternative tuning mechanisms I came up with...since I couldn't find or make gears small enough for a real half size tuner. You can get the guitar reasonably in tune, but realistically, with a neck only an inch wide at its widest point (approx.), it's virtually impossible to play anyway.

Here's another picture of that one in the half scale Lifton case I made for it:

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not if you have them in open tunings! or like a bul bul tarang and tune them all to the same note!

I know I saw some tiny metal gears somwhere a bit strange recntly I'll think about it and let you know if i remember!

I have to say I'm really impressed the detail is quite amazing!

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