Curtis P Posted December 29, 2003 Report Share Posted December 29, 2003 Hello I just joined here minutes ago, I started building an electric guitar this morning, but, where are my manners? My name is Curtis, I live in Ontario Canada and have been playing guitar for 2 years, anyways, I started building a Jackson RR5 replica this morning, I have been planning it out for over a month now, and finally got the chance to start building it at my neighbours wood working shop. After I came home, I phoned my local and trusted guitar shop, asked bout a pricing for a generic 22 fret 6 string neck, i almost fell to the floor when he said 225 bucks starting price!!! I then found this website about building a neck. Anyways, when i go to build a neck, can i take the back part, route the channel for the truss rod, then glue on the top peice, then the fret board? how do I route the truss rod? go deeper and deeper? or all the same? I am a newbie to this site, and to buildin guitars, so maybe a little help would be VERY much appreciatede Thanks alot Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted December 29, 2003 Report Share Posted December 29, 2003 my suggestion is to go to stewmac.com and get a hotrod trussrod.18" long for a standard guitar. this rod only needs a straight channel to lie in.click on instructions and it will tell you how to install.this rod is almost foolproof.and it works great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krazyderek Posted December 29, 2003 Report Share Posted December 29, 2003 if you're using a double expanding truss rod then yes that would be the correct sequence, althouth make sure your fretboard is slotted before you glue it on the neck. a milling machine, a set of straight edge rails with a template bit.... or a truss rod template are all ways to rout the channel, it's narrow enough to do it in one pass, but muliple passes is always recommened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted December 29, 2003 Report Share Posted December 29, 2003 here you go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted December 29, 2003 Report Share Posted December 29, 2003 by the way this rod sits right under the fretboard...no extra sliver of wood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted December 29, 2003 Report Share Posted December 29, 2003 that was a weird double post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtis P Posted December 29, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2003 Thanks alot But, i was probaly going to get one at my local guitar shop, hopefully they aint too expensive like there necks, my god, also, a double expanding one is a straight channel with same amount of depth, correct? Thanks alot, I didnt think this baord was this active Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted December 29, 2003 Report Share Posted December 29, 2003 Thanks alot, I didnt think this baord was this active sometimes it is,soimetimes not...yes double expanding is a set depth. i really like the hotrod because it is stainless and works very well,but i am sure there are others as good.they only take about 3 to 5 days to get your order to you,but if that is too long then i understand...it usually takes me that long to get the wood together and prepare the fretboard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaper Posted December 29, 2003 Report Share Posted December 29, 2003 Hello I just joined here minutes ago, I started building an electric guitar this morning, but, where are my manners? My name is Curtis, I live in Ontario Canada and have been playing guitar for 2 years, anyways, I started building a Jackson RR5 replica this morning, I have been planning it out for over a month now, and finally got the chance to start building it at my neighbours wood working shop. After I came home, I phoned my local and trusted guitar shop, asked bout a pricing for a generic 22 fret 6 string neck, i almost fell to the floor when he said 225 bucks starting price!!! I then found this website about building a neck. Anyways, when i go to build a neck, can i take the back part, route the channel for the truss rod, then glue on the top peice, then the fret board? how do I route the truss rod? go deeper and deeper? or all the same? I am a newbie to this site, and to buildin guitars, so maybe a little help would be VERY much appreciatede Thanks alot Curtis You can pick up a 22 fret bolt on from Carvin (www.carvin.com) for a little north of $100 (USD). For a first-timer, I'd highly recommend it over trying to build your own, but that's just my $.02. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtis P Posted December 29, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2003 well, i was really wanting to do a 24 fret, and, i figure we all have to start somewhere and somehow on building guitar parts, so i figured might as well build the neck, i get the wood fairly cheap, so i might as well try to make it work, i read something about radiusing the fretbaord? you have to put a slight curve on the fretboard?? am i correct? Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted December 29, 2003 Report Share Posted December 29, 2003 those are excellent necks....and i think reaper is right.if all you are building is one guitar then that is the way to go.fretting tools are expensive. i have one of those necks waiting for a charvel i was given Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted December 29, 2003 Report Share Posted December 29, 2003 well, i was really wanting to do a 24 fret, and, i figure we all have to start somewhere and somehow on building guitar parts, so i figured might as well build the neck, i get the wood fairly cheap, so i might as well try to make it work, i read something about radiusing the fretbaord? you have to put a slight curve on the fretboard?? am i correct? Curtis yes you need it to be radiused to match the bridge you choose.floyds are 14"? t.o.m.=10" fender =9"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbkim Posted December 30, 2003 Report Share Posted December 30, 2003 Hmm... I was under the impression TOM's were 12" and fenders were either 7" or 10" OFR's, 10" and licensed, 15" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted December 30, 2003 Report Share Posted December 30, 2003 wow!am i wrong?let me check Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtis P Posted December 30, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2003 fretting tools, what are they? i got acces to alot of tools for free, so, just let me know, and if they are available i will use them By The Way, the reason i am being so persitant on building a neck, i am so short on cash, its not funny, thats why i want to build a neck, also, i want to have the guitar finished and playable in hopefully 3 weeks Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted December 30, 2003 Report Share Posted December 30, 2003 tom= 12" floyd=14" i can't dig up fender...i swear they are 9" on strat,and 6" on tele,but i may be wrong. i notice most of the strat bridges you can adjust the radius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbkim Posted December 30, 2003 Report Share Posted December 30, 2003 wow!am i wrong?let me check Yeah, it'd be worth checking on... my memory is not the same anymore... too much fun in my 20's . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southpa Posted December 30, 2003 Report Share Posted December 30, 2003 Yes, the last TOM (Schaller roller bridge) I installed was 12" radius. You can buy pre-rediused/preslotted fretboards. It depends on what floor you want to get on. You can start with flat rosewood, ebony or whatever stock and buy a radiused sanding block from StewMac as well. Whatever you do make sure you have fun and think it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted December 30, 2003 Report Share Posted December 30, 2003 to be honest i thought toms were 10" because carvin necks are radiused at 10" and i thought gibson necks were too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbkim Posted December 30, 2003 Report Share Posted December 30, 2003 well, i was really wanting to do a 24 fret, and, i figure we all have to start somewhere and somehow on building guitar parts, so i figured might as well build the neck, i get the wood fairly cheap, so i might as well try to make it work, i read something about radiusing the fretbaord? you have to put a slight curve on the fretboard?? am i correct? Curtis Well, you don't HAVE to have a radius. Classical guitars FB's are not radiused. The bridge you choose could be a limitation but there are always workarounds. TOM's can be filed to match the radius, floyds can be shimmed, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbkim Posted December 30, 2003 Report Share Posted December 30, 2003 to be honest i thought toms were 10" because carvin necks are radiused at 10" and i thought gibson necks were too Carvin's are 15" buddy! Although the new necks will be 10"-15" compound radiused. and I don't give gibsons too much thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted December 30, 2003 Report Share Posted December 30, 2003 i thought the radius was to facilitate ease of picking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbkim Posted December 30, 2003 Report Share Posted December 30, 2003 i thought the radius was to facilitate ease of picking? Hmm... I thought it was for left-hand (fingering/chording) comfort... but I don't see it. I find flatter necks more comfortable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted December 30, 2003 Report Share Posted December 30, 2003 i think my mind is playing tricks on me tonight! who is 10"?gibson?yes gibson.i understand my confusion now. my carved top has a gibson style 10" radius nut from stewmac,and i radiused the fretboard 10" and used a 10" radius schaller fixed bridge.i must have confused them in my mind with my carvin necked v...which has a t.o.m. oh well....i have my moments forgive me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted December 30, 2003 Report Share Posted December 30, 2003 i need to go refresh my memory with some reading.good thing i always check all my facts when i build a guitar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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