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It would be interesting to find out how many people work for under-qualified other people. 

Perhaps all of us. Even those that are self employed have bosses that are less than ideal in some aspects of the job....at least in the early days.

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47 minutes ago, ScottR said:

Even those that are self employed have bosses that are less than ideal in some aspects of the job

Still applies, at least for me.

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On 1/29/2020 at 4:29 AM, Prostheta said:

Methods and beliefs change with time, and I presume so do the aforementioned psychological associations. 

Green to me says old and likely more bomb proof than modern stuff. Especially Italian....

Sorry to drag you all back to the green machine theories but what I think is like Prostheta says here. When I see these big green machines it makes me think of long days of boring work. If there's any "calming" effect, it is rescinded by BOREDOM

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On 3/2/2020 at 12:26 PM, Prostheta said:

Technically, edge banding is like binding a guitar. 40mm thick top bound with 1mm ABS. Ideally one would use EVA glue and an edge banding machine, however this has tight internal radii that needs specific attention. Radio studio console.

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when I was young I spent some serious time edge banding things.  doing something that big on the machine we had would be tuff if not impossible.  one time I was cleaning the glue pot and dropped a glob of that glue on my hand.  no way to get it off and just sat there and burned.  i can't recommend that experience.  I don't know if your machine has this but ours had a spike wheel to keep the banding taught... I heard that a prior operator tangled with that thing... can't imagine that was pretty.  looked like something out of mad max.

anywho... looks lovely... and fing heavy.

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There's two machines for doing this sort of work; one is the static conveyor type which edge bands flat edges with hot melt EVA and contains that scary pin wheel spike roller. Eek. The other is a Virutex manual banding machine which one manipulates at a steady rate around a fixed workpiece. That one would have been ideal for this if only it weren't for the internal corners needing to be so tight. Once you start you're committed. I ended up doing the large internal cutout also.

I wasn't happy with this job for a number of reasons, but as I'm sure you no doubt appreciate, inheriting a project halfway means you also inherit decisions that are baked in by that point, and also fuckups.

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1 hour ago, Prostheta said:

There's two machines for doing this sort of work; one is the static conveyor type which edge bands flat edges with hot melt EVA and contains that scary pin wheel spike roller. Eek. The other is a Virutex manual banding machine which one manipulates at a steady rate around a fixed workpiece. That one would have been ideal for this if only it weren't for the internal corners needing to be so tight. Once you start you're committed. I ended up doing the large internal cutout also.

I wasn't happy with this job for a number of reasons, but as I'm sure you no doubt appreciate, inheriting a project halfway means you also inherit decisions that are baked in by that point, and also fuckups.

interesting.  have never seen the mobile variation.  spent lots of time putting 1/8 abs on various fixtures for stores.  the one I used you could do a 3" radius by manually spinning the work piece.  my back hurts just remembering it.  your picture kind of took me back there.  bitter sweet.

afa inheritance... I know that sentiment.  even if it's perfect it's likely "not how you'd do it".  really bothersome for some reason.

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Basically this:

https://www.virutex.es/productos/?action=producte&id=128

It's like an offset router base in action, but having to keep in constant motion as the machine feeds ABS with hot lava EVA. I actually like this as there's an action to it, or a feel. Getting that down is something of an achievement that ticks my boxes. Mostly this machine ends up mounted into a ramshackle table to do more or less what you describe. I did some tables for a casino this way, and the weight of the pieces made me swear more than a few dozen times anyway.

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37 minutes ago, Prostheta said:

Basically this:

https://www.virutex.es/productos/?action=producte&id=128

It's like an offset router base in action, but having to keep in constant motion as the machine feeds ABS with hot lava EVA. I actually like this as there's an action to it, or a feel. Getting that down is something of an achievement that ticks my boxes. Mostly this machine ends up mounted into a ramshackle table to do more or less what you describe. I did some tables for a casino this way, and the weight of the pieces made me swear more than a few dozen times anyway.

that's pretty cool altho it does look a bit heavy. 

lava... hehe, yeah, that's what it feels like on your skin! 

weight... I don't know how I did that crap back in the day... big ole 6' tables of 1 1/4 mdf... guiding 'em around, that would land me on a couch real quick these days.  hell I can't even lift a porter cable belt sander with one hand any more!

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Tendonitis sucks balls. I've never had my hands or arms give out on me in my life until this point. What the hell is this middle age bullshit about anyway?!

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12 minutes ago, Prostheta said:

Tendonitis sucks balls. I've never had my hands or arms give out on me in my life until this point. What the hell is this middle age bullshit about anyway?!

I hear you there... getting old sux!

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22 minutes ago, mistermikev said:

getting old sux!

Fortunately it doesn't happen overnight! You'll have the rest of your life to get used to it.

 

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21 minutes ago, Bizman62 said:

Fortunately it doesn't happen overnight! You'll have the rest of your life to get used to it.

 

that is NOT very comforting...

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