GuitarMaestro Posted March 19, 2004 Report Share Posted March 19, 2004 Hi! I've built a Korina guitar with a 5mm quilted maple top that I bent over the forearm contour. Now I realize how nice the figured Korina really looks and I want to leave it as it is and only stain the quilted maple. I want to dye it blue with black dye before in order to enhance the figure. I wan that the top is black at the outer edges just to the point where it meets the Korina. Is that possible without geeting dye on the Korina or should I not try to do that at all? What tricks are there to not get dye on the Korina? Masking tape? Thanks in advance, Marcel Knapp! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKGBass Posted March 19, 2004 Report Share Posted March 19, 2004 Masking tape will work, thought it is not always perfect and may have some bleeding. You should be able to sand or scrape the bleedover off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Rosenberger Posted March 19, 2004 Report Share Posted March 19, 2004 you can also seal the sides and back first so the dye will not penetrate as easily. you'll still need to be careful when dying the top but any mistakes will be easier to correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank falbo Posted March 19, 2004 Report Share Posted March 19, 2004 What will your final finish be? Because if you're going to do a high gloss your korina will need it's grains filled. I'd do that first, and use a heavier filler, like a trowel grade. That way you know it won't penetrate the maple even if you get it on there. (mask off the maple) But then you'd have the pores filled. Even if you sealed the korina, like with sanding sealer or a washcoat, yes the stain wouldn't "penetrate" but it could still get inside the holes and be a pain to dig out. I'd want those pores level. Then anything you get on there will pretty much wipe right off. When you say you want the top black until it meets the edges, do you mean that you want it to have black in the figure all the way out to the edge? Or are you going to sunburst the blue to black? If you're bursting the edge then it doesn't matter since your black is applied over sealed wood. It will follow your mask line. You'd have tons of freedom not to get the blue (or black base) right up to the edge since the black burst will cover it. I imagine you meant the black dye though, and not a sunburst. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitarMaestro Posted March 19, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2004 Thanks alot for the helpful answers!!!! Several things: 1. I want the Korina to be finished in a high gloss clear finish. Which filler would you recommend? 2. I don't want to do a blueburst....I simply want the sides of the top to look the same as the front of the top....is that impossible? Thanks, MK! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biblical Posted March 19, 2004 Report Share Posted March 19, 2004 try vaseline round it so it doesnt get over the edges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setch Posted March 19, 2004 Report Share Posted March 19, 2004 try vaseline round it so it doesnt get over the edges Is this based on any experience, or is it a shot in the dark? IMO getting vaseline on something you plan to finish is a potential disaster. I don't want to appear rude if this is a tried and tested technique you've used successfully, but it sounds more to me like a guess, and one which could really ruin somebodys week if they actually followed it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted March 19, 2004 Report Share Posted March 19, 2004 first thing that comes to my mind is that vaseline is petroleum based and ,rather than repelling the stain,might soak it up and still stain the wood,and with a porous wood like korina you would have a heck of a time getting it back out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setch Posted March 19, 2004 Report Share Posted March 19, 2004 with a porous wood like korina you would have a heck of a time getting it back out I'm also thinking that trying to spray lacquer over porous wood contaminated with vaseline would be a nightmare of fisheyes, lacquer which won't stick or dry properly, and god knows what else! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitarMaestro Posted March 19, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2004 Thanks for all the good advice. I think that using vaseline is a bad idea as well and I doubt Biblical ever tried that method....But it could work....if you use water based dye then the vaseline could be able to protect the wood....I would not try it though.... But back to my questions: What filler/sealer combo do you recommend? Is there a clear filler as well? Thanks, MK! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biblical Posted March 20, 2004 Report Share Posted March 20, 2004 try vaseline round it so it doesnt get over the edges Is this based on any experience, or is it a shot in the dark? IMO getting vaseline on something you plan to finish is a potential disaster. I don't want to appear rude if this is a tried and tested technique you've used successfully, but it sounds more to me like a guess, and one which could really ruin somebodys week if they actually followed it... it was just a quick retarded idea that came into my head with no thought into it. (special tip of the week)it does help repel hair dye from your forehead though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drak Posted March 20, 2004 Report Share Posted March 20, 2004 try vaseline round it so it doesnt get over the edges Be glad Perry hasn't read this yet On a friendly note( ), please always make a remark that your thought is just an idea, not stated as if it was a fact, you could completely destroy an instrument someone had spent months on, following your advice, thinking it was fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biblical Posted March 20, 2004 Report Share Posted March 20, 2004 try vaseline round it so it doesnt get over the edges i also said it like a retard because i hadnt put that i hadnt tried it sorry for the inconveinience of my retarded post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitarMaestro Posted March 20, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2004 i also said it like a retard because i hadnt put that i hadnt tried it sorry for the inconveinience of my retarded post No problem....I have respect for people that are able to admit a mistake/fault!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhoads56 Posted March 20, 2004 Report Share Posted March 20, 2004 try vaseline round it so it doesnt get over the edges Be glad Perry hasn't read this yet Right, i have to kill someone, and i have to kill them now. Who's it gunna be! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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