goth_fiend Posted December 30, 2004 Report Share Posted December 30, 2004 guys im getting ready to draw up plans for an 8 string guitar but I dont have a clue what the standard string spacing is at the nut? im assuming that its around 2 3/8"? jeremy if I was tuned to F# (A,E,A,D,G,B,E) what would be a "normal" spacing? ( i ask this because of the underabundance of 8's!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goth_fiend Posted December 31, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2004 well i am figuring that the string spacing at the bridge is about 3 1/16ths would that be about right guys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhoads56 Posted December 31, 2004 Report Share Posted December 31, 2004 since when did the tuning determine the string spacing? Do the hard yards yourself, research, look, and you'll learn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goth_fiend Posted December 31, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2004 believe me rhoads i am looking, but theres not a heck of a lot info out there on 8 string electrics that i have found Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa_Shank Posted December 31, 2004 Report Share Posted December 31, 2004 ...measure a 6, or 7 string guitar and then add the required width for an 8th string...it's not rocket science Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goth_fiend Posted December 31, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2004 well, that makes perfect sense, thats what i did when i designed my bridge for it, now i just have to have it cnc'ed out! anybody know who would be able to do it for cheap? I have a technical drawing of what i need, all measurements, etc but i havent done cad before so i would have to have that done as well before it was milled, damned 8 string floyd rose!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goth_fiend Posted December 31, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2004 well according to my estimations, that would be a 2" nut spacing, sounds kinda small! another question guys, how will i go abouts calculating the scale length? i have wfret and of coarse it does not have anything like that, and i plan on using a 27" scale length. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGM Guitars Posted December 31, 2004 Report Share Posted December 31, 2004 I don't remember the measurements off hand, but for the nut width, it shouldn't be that hard to figure out Measure the distance between the strings on any guitar, take that number times 7 spaces, plus the width on each edge and there is your nut width, if I remember correctly the Leviiiathan's are about 2 3/4" or 2 7/8" wide at the nut, I can't remember for sure though. I just know at the 24th fret that the board is 3 1/8" wide. As for the bridge, CNC and cheap do not go along in the same sentence. Unless you know somebody who has a CNC machine and is willing to do the project as an experiment I would budget about $1500 to $2000 for a one off floyd rose bridge. Keep in mind that they will have to take your drawings, redraw them in CAD, write the program and then produce the parts. If you are using actual saddles from a floyd rose it will be a little cheaper for you as there will be less parts to make, but even the base plate will be a few hours worth of work on the CNC I'm sure. Most CNC shops have a shop rate of $100 per hour so it doesn't take long for prices to add up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goth_fiend Posted December 31, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2004 thats about what i figured, thanks lgm. also about pickups, i know you used dc45's on jammy's 8 but is that all thats available is emg's?i have contacted seymour duncan and they said they could build them, they just perfer not to, i dont blame them right now 8's are a niche market! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goth_fiend Posted January 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2005 now that im starting to get a clearer picture of what all is going to be in this guitar, what color hardware do you guys think i should use, its going to be having a quilt top with a trans blue/green/black/violet finish, i was thinking either black or or gold, also with the tuning machines, will i have to buy 2 extra E string tuners or what will i have to do>? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meegs666 Posted January 2, 2005 Report Share Posted January 2, 2005 you can buy individual tuners from stewmac or warmoth. thats what i do with seven strings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammy Posted January 2, 2005 Report Share Posted January 2, 2005 now that im starting to get a clearer picture of what all is going to be in this guitar, what color hardware do you guys think i should use, its going to be having a quilt top with a trans blue/green/black/violet finish, i was thinking either black or or gold, also with the tuning machines, will i have to buy 2 extra E string tuners or what will i have to do>? Buy them seperatly yes, but you will need to drill out the one for the lowest string (mines currently drilled for a .070) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goth_fiend Posted January 3, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2005 thats what i figured i would have to do, but only on the F# string, i dont think i will have to drill out for a .58 will I? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_urr_A Posted January 3, 2005 Report Share Posted January 3, 2005 I had 0.53 on a guitar for a while, and that worked without drilling. Can't remember how much margin there was, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGM Guitars Posted January 3, 2005 Report Share Posted January 3, 2005 thats what i figured i would have to do, but only on the F# string, i dont think i will have to drill out for a .58 will I? .058 won't be anywhere near big enough for a Low F#. I use an 056 for the Low B, the natural progression should be an 070 for the F# if you are using 9's. Anything thinner I think will sound like a wet fart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden69 Posted January 3, 2005 Report Share Posted January 3, 2005 thats what i figured i would have to do, but only on the F# string, i dont think i will have to drill out for a .58 will I? .058 won't be anywhere near big enough for a Low F#. I use an 056 for the Low B, the natural progression should be an 070 for the F# if you are using 9's. Anything thinner I think will sound like a wet fart. Yes it willllll. I had a 70 for my A string in my baritone, that one saw G and F# once in a while, If you intend on having that F# tunned down, which I don't see why, go a bit heavier unless you are going on an extended scale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goth_fiend Posted January 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 perhaps i should have reworded that, i meant the .58 for the A string not the F#! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 perhaps i should have reworded that, i meant the .58 for the A string not the F#! how are you going to tune it?if you tune the 7th string to A,then that is a dropped tuning...B is standard tuning on that string that leaves you the option of either tuning number 8 to standard f#,or drop it to E personally,and it is just my opinion,i feel like dropping any string is taking the easy way out.i prefer standard but yes...string #7 should fit through your tuners...it does on my seven string..but i believe i use a .056? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goth_fiend Posted January 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 i already stated it would be tuned to F#, A, E, A, D, G, b, e wes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 i already stated it would be tuned to F#, A, E, A, D, G, b, e wes! yes you did.but that makes no sense. i think you mean F#,B,etc... right? i think you are misjudging your intervals...if you tune the 7th string to A,then you have to either tune the 8th string to E or C...and only C makes sense in that case right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jer7440 Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 Hey GF Do you have the tech drawings for that floyd in any kind of electronic format that you could post or email to me. I'd be willing to take a look at it. Maybe I could CAD it for you. Maybe machine it. Depends on what you need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 I can't imagine playing an 8 string guitar would be very pleasant. Has anyone actually played an 8 string before? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goth_fiend Posted January 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 jer, i can *possibly* get a scan of what ive done so far by the end of the week, it has all the dimensions on it that i will need, if you could get that done, that would be absolutly awesome! Pm me later this week and we'll talk about it. and alexander, jammy owns one, ask him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jer7440 Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 Gf If you get the scan, you PM me. Maybe post here as well, no one PMs me much so I don't remember to even look to see if I have messages. I'll definitely see it if you post here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goth_fiend Posted January 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 no problem man, so i finally settled on a design though, it will be based off of a conklin but with a heavily quilted top with trans purple, blue or green this is the url for it http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-11/893...itar7.jpg\ now do you guys think that i should go with black or chrome hardware? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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