krazyderek Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 well i'm cheap, and thus i'm going to take that road for painting my guitars untill i can afford to invest in some good spraying tools. I went to home depot and got some sander's sealer, stains, and outdour varathane laquer (supposedly "diamond" hard after 4 coats), all of which are water based for easy clean up and what not. Anyways right now with the sanding sealer i'm just using those cheap foam brushe's (if you can even call them brushe's...) but i was woundering, once i get to doing the laquer coats, i should probably get a good brush for it, any recommendations?. I've read some articles on the web that say a good brushed on paint job is better then any spray job, anyone here agree with that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGM Guitars Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 no, i don't agree with it, I believe it can be done as well, but at the cost of way more work. TSL20600 or whatever his name is (sorry dude, I can't remember the numbers) did a guitar with a roller, he's the guy I would ask about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 It all comes with experiance and your willingness to take your time. I bet it can be done since I've seen some kick butt French polishing with schallac that involved only a rag and an alcohol burner (plus plenty of elbow grease). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Rosenberger Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 make sure you get the right foam pads, most of the will melt if you try to use them with laquer and shellac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitarfrenzy Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 The roller that he used is the same that I have used before... to paint metal doors at work... but I'm just not brave enough to try on a guitar... I think If you don't know what your doing it's best to stick with spraying the paint on in some form.. but I might be totally wrong... yeah TSL is the king of the roller... so I'd look for his advice also... just make sure you get the right type of roller.. you wouldn't want one that applies it and leaves bumps and dips in the paint job... Maybe someone can point him to the right link that shows the pictures of the roller we are talking about... anyway Good luck Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsl602000 Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 I think I got lucky with the roller in the first place. Make sure it's suitable for laquer and looks somewhat like this: I finished two guitars using this method and it works. It's not even hard to do, just very time consuming depending on the laquer you use. I only used nitro and that can be rolled over after 10 minits. It's not the painting that gives you a great finish... it's the sanding and polishing. I know I should do a tutorial, but I simply don't have the time now. If anyone has questions though, feel free to contact me. Coen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitarfrenzy Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 I'm looking forward to that Coen... because I almost freaked out when I first saw your guitar and found out what kind of roller you used... Yeah... and now I can see why they call you the sanding king also.. lol... Hopefully you can finish another guitar and have step by step instructions.. maybe even on a scrap piece of lumber... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krazyderek Posted July 4, 2003 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2003 i think i used something very similar when i made this computer desk, and i think i only used one coat of laquer and the roller left like goose bumps but i didn't really care, i wasn't going to wet sand and buff a 20$ plywood desk.. good enough for a keyboard and some speakers:) what brand was your roller? does it seem really nice? or just your average foam roller that won't melt with laquer? and i'll have to pick your brain about all the stuff you did, after it, all the sanding and what not.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodfixer Posted July 5, 2003 Report Share Posted July 5, 2003 I've read some articles on the web that say a good brushed on paint job is better then any spray job, anyone here agree with that? No,I would return for a lacquer spray cans.or a poly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted July 5, 2003 Report Share Posted July 5, 2003 I've read some articles on the web that say a good brushed on paint job is better then any spray job, anyone here agree with that? I honestly believe it is the talented person thats doing it, that will make all the difference in the world when it comes to a finish no matter what method they use Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodfixer Posted July 5, 2003 Report Share Posted July 5, 2003 Brian you are correct.But would someone talented have to ask this question.With no disrespect to kd I think someone trying to get a good job without experiance in hand application would be wishfull thinking. I asked myself would he get a better job by hand or spray.peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krazyderek Posted July 5, 2003 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2003 good point woodfixer, but if i am a newb and i'm trying to use stains, a painting job where thickness is going to affect the shade of the colour, should i really be using a spray gun? i feel alot better with a brush or roller, just gives me more control so i can even things out colour wise. i duno i've always been afraid/hesitant of non self powered tools i mean, there's controls and an off switch, but i just seams like an elusion of safety Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted July 5, 2003 Report Share Posted July 5, 2003 just look at tsl's strat.can't get much better than that.and it was his first.he had a lot of problems at first but as you can see it worked out for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodfixer Posted July 5, 2003 Report Share Posted July 5, 2003 KD,what I reccomend is you use a clear spray cans since you don't have spray equipment.Once you have your stain color achieved use spray cans and you should be able to accomplish the same thing. Use very lightly misted coats(alot) then finish with a wet coat or 2.This is just another opinion from another source.You gather all the advice you can and draw your own conclusion.Best of luck.I admire your searching for the correct way before you jump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krazyderek Posted July 6, 2003 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2003 actually i'm hanging on the outside of the airplane, i just forgot my parachute Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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