goth_fiend Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 so im starting a new neck thru this week (this will be my first from scratch neck thru, i have used carvin necks in the past) and im not going to be giving much away on this one, pics will tell with time, anyway the specs are going to be as follows (w/*pending) 25 1/2" maple neck thru 24 fret ebony board mohagany wings quilted maple top with matching headstock veneer *ebony or abalone stringers*(depends on how big the maple top is) black hardware floyd rose *pickups still pending, but bill lawrence x500lr in bridge and dimarzio evolution in neck with full active electronics* *transparent blueburst finish* (not sure if i want black, purple, red or green either though.) i will start making plexi templates for everything later this week, wood should be in by fridayish (thank you soooo much again rich!), i *should* be making sawdust my next monday, but i want to be extremly carefull with this one, it will be awesome, rest assured old school bc rich design that we see sometimes, but not very often (and no its not a stealth) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodney Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 so im starting a new neck thru this week (this will be my first from scratch neck thru, i have used carvin necks in the past) and im not going to be giving much away on this one, pics will tell with time, anyway the specs are going to be as follows (w/*pending) 25 1/2" maple neck thru 24 fret ebony board mohagany wings quilted maple top with matching headstock veneer *ebony or abalone stringers*(depends on how big the maple top is) black hardware floyd rose *pickups still pending, but bill lawrence x500lr in bridge and dimarzio evolution in neck with full active electronics* *transparent blueburst finish* (not sure if i want black, purple, red or green either though.) i will start making plexi templates for everything later this week, wood should be in by fridayish (thank you soooo much again rich!), i *should* be making sawdust my next monday, but i want to be extremly carefull with this one, it will be awesome, rest assured old school bc rich design that we see sometimes, but not very often (and no its not a stealth) ← Sounds nice. I'm gonna guess Ignitor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goth_fiend Posted June 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 (edited) not an ignitor, but i do plan on building one of them in the future, i just have to get a full body tracing for it! *whoo almost gave that away! Edited June 7, 2005 by goth_fiend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodney Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 not an ignitor, but i do plan on building one of them in the future, i just have to get a full body tracing for it! *whoo almost gave that away! ← HAHA! I'll keep my other guesses to myself then! Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goth_fiend Posted June 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2005 plexi was picked up today, i should be putting template pics up later this week, ordering truss rod and carbon fiber tonight as well (stew mac hot rod) i was going to be doing a very thin neck on this guitar, but after i got to play a good friends warrior guitar, i decided its going to be fairly thick, it was an awesome guitar! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goth_fiend Posted June 11, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 so pictures will be start coming in tomorrow and my template layouts are almost done, anybody care to guess what im building before i unveil it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodney Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 so pictures will be start coming in tomorrow and my template layouts are almost done, anybody care to guess what im building before i unveil it? ← Widow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goth_fiend Posted June 11, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 dear god no!! i dont like the widow at all, but one things for sure i will be able to play "flying high again" and this baby is going to scream while doing it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregP Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 Gotta be a V! Jackson or modified Gibson style? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goth_fiend Posted June 11, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 well since it is technically saturday where im at, this project is going to be a bc rich ironbird (you were kinda close with a v, it has the back of a rhoads v kinda) its going to have the original bc rich full active circuit(ala neal moser) and a few little modern things (belly cut, tone chambers possibly) I will start posting pictures tonight or tommorow depending on how work goes, so there ya have it the cats outta the bag! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregP Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 I prefer a V, but that's just me. I like that you're doing something different! What makes a Moser active circuit unique? I don't ask in a sarcastic tone but with genuine curiousity because I didn't even know that he DID active circuits. Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goth_fiend Posted June 11, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 (edited) well its not like emgs, but here is the rundown of what a vintage bcr active circuit contains *note this is taken directly from neals site, i did not write this* 1. Treble Booster on-off switch. Great to kick on if you want a biting lead. It has no volume control. It doesn't boost the vol that much. 2. Secondary booster on-off switch. Switch up is on. It's related vol is #10. 3. Primary booster on-off switch. Switch up is on. It's related vol is #12. 4. Out of phase switch. Switch up puts pickups out of phase when both pickups are on. 5. Neck pickup series/parallel switch. Switch down is series and switch up is parallel. 6. Bridge pickup series/parallel switch. Switch down is series and switch up is parallel. 7. Stand-by switch. Switch up guitar off. 8. Varitone in and out switch. Switch down varitone out. Switch up varitone in. This allows you to pre-set a varitone position so you can use a sound by hitting the switch instead of rotating through the spectrum. 9. Master volume. 10. Secondary booster volume. 11. Varitone rotary switch. Counter clockwise position 1 is straight through. 12. Primary booster volume. 13. Tone control. 14. Neck pickup volume. 15. Pickup selector switch yeah its a total nightmare to wire! Edited June 11, 2005 by goth_fiend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGGR Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 (edited) It confuses me already just looking at it. Maybe great for studio use....but don't see myself remembering all the setting when playing on stage. Too much trying to impress the t*pless girl on the 3rd row anyway...... Oh, wait......I never play a guitar on stage.......Must have been the Van Halen dream that keeps coming back so once in while..... Edited June 11, 2005 by RGGR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sambo Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 Jesus dude, who wants to put bets on how many of those switches ever get used?! All ya need is a volume, tone, and pickup switch. As my maths teacher used to say 'Keep it simple stupid... KISS' But hey, All to their own! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Sorbera Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 (edited) After one look I thought it was all unnecessary but after reading it I would use it all except the two volume boost, the treble boost, and the neck pickup volume. And I would do away with the kill switch. That would make 3 knobs, 4 switchs and your pickup selector. Not too bad at all. I might have too try that wireing on my next project. It soudnds really useful auccually. Series/parrall for each pickup, out of phase with both on, and varitone with an off switch. Not to overwhelming at all. Do you have a schematic? I really don't feel like figureing that one out If you figure it out shoot me a PM. Edited June 11, 2005 by Godin SD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goth_fiend Posted June 11, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 godin, im buying the complete wireing harness for it direct from neal, i will have to do is wire the pickups and the input jack, but i will ask neal for the schematic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff Beer Man Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 Yeah will be good to buy the whole harness from him so u dont have to do it, but what if you have to repair it . lol. Cant to see it though man..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goth_fiend Posted June 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2005 alright well, as promised, here is the first of the pictures to be comming in, and this is the body template that i will be cutting out later next week after the rest of the templates are all done (I still have to make sure all my measurements are spot on) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slabbefusk Posted June 12, 2005 Report Share Posted June 12, 2005 I love Ironbirds!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drak Posted June 12, 2005 Report Share Posted June 12, 2005 I have learned over the years that it is a fairly standard thing for someone who is in the 1-5 guitars built range... ...that they build their very own 747 Flying Fortress. It's just something everyone has to get out of their system, so I don't bother to knock it, they will find out one day that too much is too much and they won't use 2/3rds of any of it, but this step is 'part of the journey', and everyone has to walk thru it, no use trying to talk anyone out of it, and it is great experience if you have to build it YOURSELF ( ) because on that one guitar you will get a -lot- of experience on wiring screwups, and just generally learn a lot about wiring guitars, which is an important step in guitar building. But Goth won't learn too much if he's buying it pre-made, so it's a tossup whether or not it will be worth it, because worst case scenario is he'll wind up not using 2/3rds of it and not learned much about wiring electronics, pkps, and their 'marvelous' <cough cough> interactions with each other, that is a lose/lose proposition. But hey, I've done plenty of lose/losers too! Nothing wrong with that, it's all part of the fun of the freedom of building any damn thing your little heart desires, that kind of territory comes with a few landmines here and there. Good luck with it Goth! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goth_fiend Posted June 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2005 carbon fiber and truss rod came in today, so now im just waiting for my woods to get here, should be a little later this week, they were sent out today to my knowledge, more pictures tommorow, i still have a few to resize. and the more i think about it, the less i like the idea of such a monster of a electronics package, it would be nice, but what i am going to do is instead is keep the varitone and a single booster with the treble booster, coil taps for both pickups and a master vol/tone 3 way, not as bad to wire and still more then enough versitility for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goth_fiend Posted June 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2005 bridge came in today as did the tuners (gotoh floyd and schaller m-6's black respectivly) still waiting on woods, but that gives me time to triple check all of my templates and make sure that i have them correct and ready to cut out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goth_fiend Posted June 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 (edited) body and neck woods came in today so im going to be starting cutting out the templates later this week, if not monday (depends on how work goes) pictures up later tonight *here they are http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/the_f...ironbird003.jpg http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/the_f...ironbird007.jpg as you can see the woods are a tad bit small for the size of the body and neck, this is not really a problem though, only a small obstical, as for the templates i know i havent cut them out yet, not all of them are done for that matter! comments are always welcome guys! Edited June 16, 2005 by goth_fiend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slabbefusk Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 Is that a reverse headstock im seeing? If so, AWESOME!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goth_fiend Posted June 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 oh yeah it will have a reverse headstock, I just think it looks a heck of a lot better then the widow, bcr classic (3perside) or a normal pointed headstock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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