chunkielad Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 Just read on a site that if you mix CA and baking soda it makes a plastic is that right? If so, I might have a go at some dot inlays for a laugh. If anyone has done it, is there any way of colouring it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToneMonkey Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 Personally I don't know, but if you do decide to find out, please do it a long way from my house I'll keep my eye out for the mushroom cloud. Saying that though, you should the amount of things that we've been throwing in lacquer recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al heeley Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 Baking Soda acts as an Accelerator with CA adhesive. Besides water, cyanoacrylate polymerises in presence of alcohol and basic compounds (including weak amines). The latter can be used to produce a superglue “kicker” – a compound which triggers quick polymerisation of the glue. Baking soda is one well-known substance with this effect. If you apply a layer of superglue to a seam and gently pour baking soda over it, the glue will cure very quickly. It makes for most effective filler for smaller jobs, and the baking soda results in a slightly rough surface which is good for sanding. There you go, but remember to ask a grown up before you use the pointy scissors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunkielad Posted September 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 Wow that's cool! I thought it was some kid being daft but if it works, I may have a go (carefully!) Does it set clear or white? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al heeley Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 I reckon it'll set milky, sort of clear with white bits in it! =D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drak Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 Wow, didn't know that, which makes me wonder why the normal accellerator they sell for CA glues is known to be SO dangerous, it has been known to kill a few people (lung cancer I think) in a few short years when used with no ventilation. Why can't they sell a much safer alternative I wonder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al heeley Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 I guess it's not nearly as effective. Any inert filler generally weakend the glue strength and maybe people don't want white residues on the surfaces when they use superglues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunkielad Posted September 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2006 (edited) Well, I've had a go and I'm pretty impressed! You need to work in layers to build it up or you end up with pockets of non CA'd bits and when you sand, you have to fill those bits in again. Generally though it's worked out pretty good. I will test in a day or so to see how hard they get as at the minute (after an hour) they seem slightly soft. Not too much that it'd cause an issue but it would be nice for them to be a little tougher. Pics will come soon. Edited September 9, 2006 by chunkielad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southpa Posted September 9, 2006 Report Share Posted September 9, 2006 Baking soda and CA are also very good for repairing/building up nut slots in plastic as well. For a bone nut I sand a piece of bone and use the dust w/ CA. I've also made colored FB dots by packing dyed maple dust, rosewood dust or gumwood dust (any dust will do) and whickering in CA glue. Sand flush and refill as needed. I call it "the poor man's inlay". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted September 10, 2006 Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 Well, I've had a go and I'm pretty impressed! You need to work in layers to build it up or you end up with pockets of non CA'd bits and when you sand, you have to fill those bits in again. Generally though it's worked out pretty good. I will test in a day or so to see how hard they get as at the minute (after an hour) they seem slightly soft. Not too much that it'd cause an issue but it would be nice for them to be a little tougher. Pics will come soon. What colour does it set? White, clear or milky? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunkielad Posted September 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 White but not even. It's almost a pearl effect without the sheen if you get me. I'll post pics once my touch up fills have dried and been sanded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunkielad Posted September 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2006 (edited) Well this is the result There's much more sanding to do as the board isn't radiused yet. So far they seem quite sturdy and tidy to boot. I think that with a bit more practise I could get them totally even - maybe i won't try though as I like the different opacities. I think I will have a go at colouring them next. Edited September 11, 2006 by chunkielad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pr3Va1L Posted September 11, 2006 Report Share Posted September 11, 2006 Looks really nice! That could actually be of nice help to make really complicated inlays!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prauny Posted October 7, 2006 Report Share Posted October 7, 2006 Im about to try this in a block inlay, i'll post the pictures when ive done it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Posted October 7, 2006 Report Share Posted October 7, 2006 Looks really nice! That could actually be of nice help to make really complicated inlays!!! Wow, definitly would save a work cutting MOP fer sure. -Vinny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prauny Posted October 7, 2006 Report Share Posted October 7, 2006 ok, ive tried it on a block inlay and it doesnt look that great. I would probably stick to using it for dots only. Its looks to messy in a block inlay anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunkielad Posted October 7, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2006 Post a pic, lets have a look. I founf that with a bit of practise it can be quite evenly done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prauny Posted October 7, 2006 Report Share Posted October 7, 2006 Post a pic, lets have a look. I founf that with a bit of practise it can be quite evenly done. I'll put up a picture tomorow, my camera wont take a close enough photo so i'll have to use the one at work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biliousfrog Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 is that Africa in the first dot?.....have you designed atlas inlays?! If you manage to add some colour you could probably make some cool marble effects. BTW, what is this CA that you're talking about?...a type of glue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 CA = Cyano Acrylate, which also is known as 'Crazy Glue'. -Vinny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doeringer Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 Idea - can you use a water based dye to color the baking soda, let it dry, break up the clumps then mix with the ca? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prauny Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 Idea - can you use a water based dye to color the baking soda, let it dry, break up the clumps then mix with the ca? I was thinking something similer mate. I will try mixing food colouring with the soda, and with the glue and see which turns out the best. I suspect mixing it with the glue may not work though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crafty Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 I think a better idea may be to add the CA glue to the baking soda. A while back I was reading my Guitar Player Repair Guide and Dan Erlewine recommends using the combo of CA and bicarb to plug stripped screw holes. You put a little bicarb in the hole and add a drop of super glue, small puff of white smoke you shouldn't breathe, and voila, instant plug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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