tim_ado Posted May 11, 2007 Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 (edited) hey at the moment I've got a pulled apart squire strat in my shed it needs repairs as wood between the neck pocket and the neck pickup is cracked badly so I was thinking would it be possible to fix that up maybe do a new neck and put a top on it with a shape like this i know the body would be really small...do you think that it would be one of those "cool a small bodied guitar" guitar or just so small it would be lame thanks I'll probably end up doing some form of mod on it or I'll just bin it Edited May 11, 2007 by tim_ado Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hades Posted May 11, 2007 Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 There'll be a lot of holes in your Cool&Small guitar.. From the Strat control caviti(es). And if you plan to redo everything (out of "MaybeCheap" Squire wood), why not get a plank and do yourself a LesPaul Jr. ? I personnaly don't think that it'll be easier to do your idea than a new body from scratch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector Posted May 11, 2007 Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 I personnaly don't think that it'll be easier to do your idea than a new body from scratch. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim_ado Posted May 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 yeah i really wanna do a new guitar I've just got a crappy strat sitting round and I'm tossing some ideas i was thinking just put a top on it but just looking at some new shapes that could be made Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElysianGuitars Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 instead of tossing ideas, just toss the body lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim_ado Posted May 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 yeah I'm thinking that the neck pockets cracked and I need to new a new neck because it"s warped alot ....... I don't even need a new Electric and if i did it wouldn't be a strat lol but why not try a mod if I'm going to bin it any ideas??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ledzendrix1128 Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 (edited) the way i see it, if you went ahead and did it, you might learn a lot more about building. Nothing really bad can happen if you decide to build it, so i say go for it. Yeah, you might get a lot of people saying its a dumb idea and its not worth the trouble, but who cares. I say go for it, try doing some new things (I personally wouldnt spend alot of money on the whole project). maybe try making some of the parts yourself out cheap things you find layin around, itll get you more experience as a builder, and it might possibly get you a guitar worth playing every once and a while. Edited May 12, 2007 by Ledzendrix1128 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim_ado Posted May 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 (edited) the way i see it, if you went ahead and did it, you might learn a lot more about building. Nothing really bad can happen if you decide to build it, so i say go for it. Yeah, you might get a lot of people saying its a dumb idea and its not worth the trouble, but who cares. I say go for it, try doing some new things (I personally wouldnt spend alot of money on the whole project). yeah thats the main idea of it but I want to do a bit of planning to make a plausible design instead of jumping straight in and making crap There'll be a lot of holes in your Cool&Small guitar.. From the Strat control caviti(es). no the new design goes around the cavitys Edited May 12, 2007 by tim_ado Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 Don't do it, you'll end up probably not doing anything with the project. I tried something similar, and the body just looked ugly and really small afterwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim_ado Posted May 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 well I reckon a cut up guitar in the bin would look better than a normal guitar in the bin plus I've got some ideas going around in my head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim_ado Posted May 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2007 (edited) ok well i went for it and cut it up .......ill probaly get crap for it but ohh well here it is with a rough cut now as for ideas im thinking a shattered mirror on top with black grout inbetween also with the pickups i want them to be underneath the mirror but i dont know how it will go with the mirror there any ideas??? as far as wiring go i dont want any knobs just the output .........not sure if it will work but if it doesnt then ill just change the design no worries Edited May 27, 2007 by tim_ado Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblaty Posted May 27, 2007 Report Share Posted May 27, 2007 Oh poor strat.. I wouldn´t do it if I was you... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbanezFreak666 Posted May 27, 2007 Report Share Posted May 27, 2007 hmmm it doesnt look too bad...you need to neaten up the sides though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert_the_damned Posted May 27, 2007 Report Share Posted May 27, 2007 That's brutal! I love it Its probably not *that* much smaller than a LP anyway (seeing as a strat is actually a lot larger in profile). A question though: why the heck is your sustain block still in the body? that's going to look cool with a nicely shaped pickguard. Something that follows the curves! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim_ado Posted May 30, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 (edited) yeah im not finsihed with the shape of it though i guess the sustain block it under the bridge i just took the bridge off and didnt want to take it out i dont know?? haha what did you have in mind for a pickgaurd i havnt really thought about it but if it looks good why not do it Edited May 31, 2007 by tim_ado Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim_ado Posted May 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 sorry forgot to ask anyone have any idea if the pickups will be affected if i put them under the mirror?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregP Posted May 31, 2007 Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 It's about the same size as a Nighthawk/Blueshawk. Pretty cool if you manage to finish'er up right, actually. I'm still not sure how the top's going to turn out. The mirror thing doesn't strike me as a good idea, but what the heck do I know. Not much. It's the end result of the top that's oging to make or break this project. If you put pickups UNDER a mirror, you might not generate enough of a signal from the vibrating strings. That's the main risk. Borrow a strat (since you've cut up yours!) and lower the pickups flush with the pickguard-- you'll already notice a significant loss of volume and tone. Putting them UNDER the mirror (equivalent to lowering them even lower than flush with a pickguard) just makes it that much more of an issue. Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim_ado Posted May 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 yeah thats wat im thinking .....but with the mirror on is the equivalent to having them flush to the pick gaurd but im still not 100% convince it will work another idea i had was to cover the whole body in canvas still having pickups underneath(but a whole lost less of interferance im guessing) then paint some mad idea ontop of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregP Posted May 31, 2007 Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 Not really, because if it was "flush" with the pickguard, the polepieces are more or less the same level as the pickguard's top. Underneath the mirror, they're at the same level as the pickguard's underside. Have you considered using a piece of 1/8" veneer over the whole top? I don't know for sure how it would work, but in my imagination I'm thinking something just thick enough to be sturdy but thin enough that you don't have to shim the neck pocket or anything. [edit: hrm. Forgot about the arm carve... I'll keep the original thought there in case it's worth anything to you, but the carve certainly adds a bit more complexity to the plan] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim_ado Posted May 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 yeah thats wat ruled out the veneer for me im sure its do-able but far to hard for me (im sure you need a vaccum or somthing to do it) does the canvas sound good or ........any other ideas?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert_the_damned Posted May 31, 2007 Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 I'd agree with Greg in saying that you're not going to get a lot of sound with your pickups that far from the strings. Personally I'd paint the body and just use a mirror pickguard and chromed pickups (if you're wanting that sort of look). I'd follow the body shape sort of like this: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim_ado Posted May 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 yeah i really want to try something different so like i doubt ill just "paint" the body but i like the scratch plate idea also any idea if a no knob wiring system will work?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 a guitar with no knobs will work fine, and obviously be very easy to wire. But of course you'll have no way to shut the thing up except from unplugging it. maybe you could add an on/off toggle switch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyManAndy Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 (edited) a guitar with no knobs will work fine, and obviously be very easy to wire. But of course you'll have no way to shut the thing up except from unplugging it. maybe you could add an on/off toggle switch? Yeh, I would make a recess in the back of the guitar and install a rocker type switch for on/off ability. That way it wouldn't be visible. Maybe you could make the top a mirror top like you want, but leave room for the pickup cavities and just make the pickup covers to match the top. It would pretty much blend in. CMA Edited June 1, 2007 by CrazyManAndy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim_ado Posted June 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2007 Maybe you could make the top a mirror top like you want, but leave room for the pickup cavities and just make the pickup covers to match the top. yeah thats the other option but it want the top to be not very busy by having the pickups underneath but obviously if its not going to work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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