brownsound79 Posted August 23, 2008 Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 Hey guys.. just finished (for now).. i dont think theres more stuff to add.. THE SPECS 2pc light Alder body (strat shape,rear routed) nice birdseye maple neck with stainless steel jumbo frets (i love it),Planetwaves Autotrim tuner (neat..! ) ALL Di Marzio pickups/pots/switches,Musicaps capacitors..and Schaller Floyd Rose with EVH D-Tuna but still... one more project.. about to finish.. an active preamp circuit with gain control.. just simple FET tranny stuff.. adios... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaycee Posted August 23, 2008 Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 Very nice. I like clean uncluttered looking guitars, and this is very aesthetically pleasing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thoughtless 7 Posted August 23, 2008 Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 I like this. Simple, but looks great. What choice of pickups did you go for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAK Guitars Posted August 23, 2008 Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 Yeah the name fits it well but it looks really classy. I like the strap pins too, very EVH! PS. Welcome to projectguitar! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownsound79 Posted August 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 the body only got 1 layer of lacquer,NO GLOSS.. (lazy or resonance..?? ) and 7-8 (forgot) layer of tung-oil & beeswax+orange oil for neck & fretboard.. and lacquer again for the headstock.. (like musicman axis..) i only polished the front side... NOTE: the lock nut screw.. you can see a hairline/border between tung-oil & Lacquer.. electronics.. i use DiMarzio DP100 (super Distortion) for the bridge and DiMarzio DP215 (EVO2 bridge) for the neck position with push/pull (series/parallel switch) all wired with DiMarzio 500kpots (vol),500k-p/pull(tone) with.022uf Hovland Musicaps capacitor... blue connector for easy changing.. (wiring junkies.. ) YES the neckplate sez KRAMER C5150 ... or is it..?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesy Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 I like simplicity too. SS looks good! I see you have mounted the humbuckers without mounting rings. Is this a common thing? As well as keeping the look simple, does it alter the sound having them more rigidly mounted to the wood instead of hanging on screws and springs? (of course, I could only do that if my routing of the cavity was neat enough ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElysianGuitars Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 (edited) I like simplicity too. SS looks good! I see you have mounted the humbuckers without mounting rings. Is this a common thing? As well as keeping the look simple, does it alter the sound having them more rigidly mounted to the wood instead of hanging on screws and springs? (of course, I could only do that if my routing of the cavity was neat enough ) thoughts on this subject are all over the place and vary quite vastly. i'll give you my take on direct mounting, and why it doesn't effect the tone. pickups are electromagnetic in nature, they pick up variations in the magnetic field. wood is not metal, it does not effect a magnetic field, so i feel mounting directly does not effect the tone, because there is no added variation in the magnetic field. things that effect tone significantly are things like what kind of frets are used, what kind of strings are used, anything that could percievably effect the magnetic field. wood is organic, its not going to do that. but my theory also opens up another can of worms, which i also have a theory on, which is, why do different body woods effect tone? and i think the answer to that is all in the strings. different woods will accentuate different frequency resonation in the strings, so the wood actually effects the way the string vibrates, which is what is picked up by the guitars pickups... again, its all theory, and just my thoughts on this, other people swear that direct mounting pickups has a tonal effect, and they are certainly entitled to their opinion. by the way, make templates, and use template bits to route your cavities, then you don't have to worry about if your cavities were neat enough for it, cause they'd be just like your template. Edited August 24, 2008 by ElysianGuitars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesy Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 but my theory also opens up another can of worms, which i also have a theory on, which is, why do different body woods effect tone? and i think the answer to that is all in the strings. different woods will accentuate different frequency resonation in the strings, so the wood actually effects the way the string vibrates, which is what is picked up by the guitars pickups... again, its all theory, and just my thoughts on this, other people swear that direct mounting pickups has a tonal effect, and they are certainly entitled to their opinion. You've got me thinking. How about this - the wood vibrates from the energy imparted by the vibrating strings. Since the pickup is solidly mounted, it too must vibrate. So as well as the strings vibrating above the pickup in the magnetic field, the pickup itself is also vibrating, i.e. moving relative to the strings - hence the wood/pickup vibration produces additional signal, and the amount and type of harmonics etc will be very much effected by the wood type and shape and resonances. by the way, make templates, and use template bits to route your cavities, then you don't have to worry about if your cavities were neat enough for it, cause they'd be just like your template. I do, and I am getting better at it each time As long as I don't slip... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElysianGuitars Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 (edited) but my theory also opens up another can of worms, which i also have a theory on, which is, why do different body woods effect tone? and i think the answer to that is all in the strings. different woods will accentuate different frequency resonation in the strings, so the wood actually effects the way the string vibrates, which is what is picked up by the guitars pickups... again, its all theory, and just my thoughts on this, other people swear that direct mounting pickups has a tonal effect, and they are certainly entitled to their opinion. You've got me thinking. How about this - the wood vibrates from the energy imparted by the vibrating strings. Since the pickup is solidly mounted, it too must vibrate. So as well as the strings vibrating above the pickup in the magnetic field, the pickup itself is also vibrating, i.e. moving relative to the strings - hence the wood/pickup vibration produces additional signal, and the amount and type of harmonics etc will be very much effected by the wood type and shape and resonances. by the way, make templates, and use template bits to route your cavities, then you don't have to worry about if your cavities were neat enough for it, cause they'd be just like your template. I do, and I am getting better at it each time As long as I don't slip... but if the body vibrating vibrates the pickups, why would it vibrate more direct mounted than it would ring mounted? you'd think itd have more freedom to vibrate as you say when its mounted in a ring, as opposed to direct mounted(which generally has some kind of foam underneat between the body and pickup.) Edited August 24, 2008 by ElysianGuitars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanthus Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 That has got to be the neatest wiring job I've ever seen Come to my place! I've got a project for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesy Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 but if the body vibrating vibrates the pickups, why would it vibrate more direct mounted than it would ring mounted? you'd think itd have more freedom to vibrate as you say when its mounted in a ring, as opposed to direct mounted(which generally has some kind of foam underneat between the body and pickup.) Maybe it wouldn't vibrate more, but it would certainly vibrate differently. The pickup mounting rings, springs and screws would transmit the vibrations differently to wood, screws, and foam, and even add their own resonances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownsound79 Posted August 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 Yep i agree.. direct mount pickups got nothing to do with tone.. its the player finger itself.. if u play great.. any (well tuned,intonated) guitar will sound great.. i just dont want to drill the 4 holes for the PU ring.. actually i'v got an aluminum plate/bar underneath.. and the pickups were bolted to the aluminum plate... just like this.... and the plate were bolted to the body.. with this setup i CAN easily set my pickup height WITHOUT worrying it will pops out from the wood.. (alot of people having probs like that..) sort of like this.. GOOD SETUP.. shimming the floyd saddles to match the fret radius.. end up with nice string action feel.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElysianGuitars Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 Yep i agree.. direct mount pickups got nothing to do with tone.. its the player finger itself.. if u play great.. any (well tuned,intonated) guitar will sound great.. i just dont want to drill the 4 holes for the PU ring.. actually i'v got an aluminum plate/bar underneath.. and the pickups were bolted to the aluminum plate... just like this.... and the plate were bolted to the body.. with this setup i CAN easily set my pickup height WITHOUT worrying it will pops out from the wood.. (alot of people having probs like that..) sort of like this.. GOOD SETUP.. shimming the floyd saddles to match the fret radius.. end up with nice string action feel.. wow, i really like the bar idea, that is really cool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 Yes,direct mounting makes a difference...I started with direct mount on an all mahogany guitar I made,and it was too muddy,I switched to a ring mount,and it cleared it right up...If you are playing clean,then you may want the extra resonance..I did not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WezV Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 direct mouting makes a big difference.... a pickup will suddenly start vibrating with the rest of the body and that changes how it senses te strings... it works for some stuff but i prefer to ring mount and control the rest of the little differences Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElysianGuitars Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 see, different schools of thought could discuss this for days, i doubt we'll be changing each others minds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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