avengers63 Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 SPECS BODY chambered ash body flat leopardwood cap black top binding belly cut bass-side f-hole NECK maple epiphone neck w/explorer headstock maple f/b black dot inlays leopardwood veneer on headstock HARDWARE all black hardware Wilkinson tuners 2 Aretc humbuckers standard LP wiring I bought an Epiphone neck for this project. I'm using all of the hardware fron the Zebrawood capped LP to make this one. I started to hog out the control cavity, but I switched gears mid-stream and started doing something else. It'll still be there Wednesday. Unless I work on one of the OTHER 4 projects I have going on. This one is going up on consignment. I need to have this one done by the middle of November for the Christmas shopping season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundsteelblues Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 You are a project machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avengers63 Posted October 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 You are a project machine. I have so many things going on at once.... I seriously NEED to have about a week off from my job so I can go get some of these things done. There are 3 non-guitar projects waiting to be finished up, and another 2 to be started. One of those two is an assembly-line project that is likely to have 6-10 finished pieces. Then there are 4 guitar projects, and another one in the planning. This isn't to mention the sale bodies I need to continue to make. There are no less than 4 od those waiting in the wings. I have two bodies that didn't sell, so I'll be putting trem routes in them and trying again, so there's some time there too. Yea... I need some time off so I can get some stuff done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avengers63 Posted October 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 Control cavities hollowed out and back given 1/2" radius roundover. Next is to hog out the rest of the body chambers. It's a pity to waste all of that wood just grinding it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 i like the look of that back, the shape goes really nice with the way the grain moves i cant wait to see where you go with this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avengers63 Posted October 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 body cavity hogged out DANG that made a mess and just took forever to do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 hey avenger, are you doing a tummy relief on that one? i always find hard to evaluate how much wood i can remove from the hollowed chambers close to the top side of the waist. are your routes freehanded? nice work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avengers63 Posted October 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 I wanted to to a belly cut, but with the chambered body, I was VERY fearful about gouging through it. ROUTING Template/Straightedge - control cavity, wiring channel, neck pocket(later), pups (later) Freehand - chamber, switch hole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avengers63 Posted October 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 front edge 1 edge 2 Leopardwood glued on. Cap routed to size. Carve lip cut. Binding channel cut. So... do I glue on the binding before I do the carve or after? I think I know the answer, but I need to make sure. When you answer, please tell me WHY as well. Also, I need y'all to tell me what to do. I can put on either of two different necks. I have a mahogany LP neck with white binding, MOP blocks, and a rosewood f/b. I also have a maple Epihpone neck with an Explorer headstock, maple f/b, and dots. If I use the LP neck, I do nothing to it. If I use the Epi, I'll put a thin leopardwood overlay on it. Bear in mind that this is going to have a traditional LP electronics layout, but with a hardtail bridge. This guitar is going on consignment in a local shop, so PLEASE tell me what to do from that perspective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick500 Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 I think it looks better with the LP neck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j. pierce Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 I think it looks better with the LP neck. seconded. My carved top guitar, I put the binding on first, and then carved down. I figured the binding gave me an idea of where to stop carving at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WezV Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 definately les paul neck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 Very rare for me to go with the consensus but this time I am going to have to, the Dr. Parts neck just sets that guitar off and the whole combination just looks outside the square, cool, classy and balanced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
govtmule Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 I really like how the Explorer headstock compliments your Avenger's lower horn but the rosewood fretboard of the LP neck looks much better with the leopardwood top I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the telecaster kid Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that I think the explorer neck looks cooler on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Preston Swift Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 that looks sweet with the lp. Explorer one would look better if it was rosewood mahogany. Where did you happen to get that LP neck? Personal or ebay or w/e? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avengers63 Posted October 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 that looks sweet with the lp. Explorer one would look better if it was rosewood mahogany. Where did you happen to get that LP neck? Personal or ebay or w/e? I bought the neck off of eBay. I did a side-by-side comparison if it, a Danelectro, Carvin, and Westone necks in this thread. http://projectguitar.ibforums.com/index.ph...st&p=394426 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geo Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 (edited) Definitely the Gibson neck. I think your body shape needs to have "only one protrusion"--so no protrusion on the headstock. Looks nice BTW. Edited October 29, 2008 by Geo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avengers63 Posted November 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 I was finally able to get back to it tonight, and once again I prove myself to be a bonehead. I did the binding tonight. It went a LOT easier than I was anticipating. I was even able to use the heat gun to soften it up to go around the tight corners. With the all-black hardware, I went with black binding to keep the theme going. It's actually a VERY nice contrast outline between the leopardwood and the ash. Then I put the neck in place it to see how everything looked. Houston, we have a problem. THE DANG NECK IS BOUND IN WHITE!!!!!!!! :D My first thought was to try and peel the black binding off. With the superglue holding everything in place, that clearly wasn't an option. The second thought was to use the explorer headstock. No... it's a longer scale than the LP neck, so the bridge pup would be a little out of place. So here's the question: Can I rout it off? If so, I could even leave just a little bit of the black there and give it an extra layer of pinstriping inside the white. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
low end fuzz Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 by any chance; does the combo look cool?? what about masking off and painting it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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j. pierce Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 I don't know - I think it looks kind of cool! I'd be tempted to leave it the way it is, and build or pick up a black-bound neck that fits later down the road if it really got to me. But yes, you should be able to route off the binding - I've done it before, although never over a whole body, just in a small area. If you aren't comfortable, bind a little bit around a scrap block, let it set, and try it removing it there! (Practice on scrap, even if you need to make scrap to do it!) It's messy, because of the way the plastic shaves off and sticks to everything via static cling. I did it in a few shallow passes, and had no problem. I know there was a builder here a year or two ago that wasn't happy with his binding and routed it off and re-applied. I don't remember him having problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geo Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 I would just leave it. It looks great, and it's original too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RestorationAD Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 Time to start building your own necks..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avengers63 Posted November 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 Time to start building your own necks..... Or you can make one for me. Since neither going to happen.... I guess I'll rout it off tonight. I think the black looks better than the white will, but I don't like the looks of them combined. I think I'll try clipping off part of it first and see if I can rig up a multi-layer effect. Anyone else want to chime in before I do something to it this weekend? I'll be getting to it by Sunday afternoon so that I can do the carve on Monday. Any and all input suggesting how not to dork this up is always appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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