Automatic Shut-off Table Saw

[RAI6]

Amazing stuff......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHrmvQKevfI

[NotYou]

I saw that a couple weeks ago. I wish all tools had that ability. My hands would have a lot less scars.

[Bmth Builder]

Jesus Christ! Cant believe he put his finger in there lol with the side on view it really didnt look like his finger ever touched the blade, I guess he was being really cautious as to move it in very slowly to minimise damage to himself, but I mean even if you weren't being that careful, looks like you will only come away with a cut!

[Rick500]

They sell these at the Woodcraft store locally. Blade-stopping ability aside, it's also a very nice saw.

(I have a much cheaper table saw that I don't really like, and avoid using if at all possible.)

[Quarter]

I saw that the other night, amazing stuff. Also good to know its a quality unit.

A quick Google shows they start around $1600, still less than re attaching fingers.

[guitar_player]

These are awesome. We got the cabinet saw at school when my teacher cut off his thumb and my dad uses them at work. There expensive though the contractor saw is $1600. I've got an an old table saw here, I hate using it I feel a lot safer on one of these lol and atleast the fence doesn't have to be locked on both side.

[fookgub]

A friend of mine has the cabinet saw version. The safety factor is awesome, but beyond that, it's also a very nice saw. I don't see myself getting a table saw for a long time, but when I finally do, it will be a SawStop.

My friend is a lawyer, and he feels that now that this technology exists, the other saw manufacturers are just a few lawsuits away from being forced to license the technology and use it in their own saws.

Edited December 12, 2008 by fookgub

[j. pierce]

I'm glad to see that riving knives are finally standard equipment on so many saws, as well.

I'm just heck of scared of table saws - I've seen kickback throw pieces of wood across a shop, and met enough woodworkers with missing or partially missing digits to be wary of 'em.

[Prostheta]

Excellent! A table saw with a self-destruct mechanism in the event of damp wood, or anything conductive as "a salty sausage". Har har har.

[RAI6]

Excellent! A table saw with a self-destruct mechanism in the event of damp wood, or anything conductive as "a salty sausage". Har har har.

"Salty sausage"

That just gives me visuals about something that should NEVER come in contact with a power tool.....

[Prostheta]

I see that the real-life demonstration was the dude edging his finger towards the blade a smidgeon at a time, whereas in a real situation, you'd be moving it at up to a foot per second. I wonder if "normal" blades can take those 1000G of deceleration, or whether they're made for the purpose.

Now we need chicken bullets which turn into a rosey scent of fresh air if they just as much as hit a salty human or friendly dude animal. Or safety beer, which de-alcoholises when you've had too much but are too far gone to admit it :-D

[fookgub]

I see that the real-life demonstration was the dude edging his finger towards the blade a smidgeon at a time, whereas in a real situation, you'd be moving it at up to a foot per second. I wonder if "normal" blades can take those 1000G of deceleration, or whether they're made for the purpose.

Here's a demo at normal speed:

You can use any blade you want, but tripping the mechanism ruins the blade. You also have to replace the brake. Personally, I'd rather be out about $200 than one of my fingers. The idea is that you never want to have to use this safety feature, but it's there if/when you need it. Kind of like airbags, I suppose.

Edited December 15, 2008 by fookgub

[Geo]

I see that the real-life demonstration was the dude edging his finger towards the blade a smidgeon at a time, whereas in a real situation, you'd be moving it at up to a foot per second. I wonder if "normal" blades can take those 1000G of deceleration, or whether they're made for the purpose.

Here's a demo at normal speed:

You can use any blade you want, but tripping the mechanism ruins the blade. You also have to replace the brake. Personally, I'd rather be out about $200 than one of my fingers. The idea is that you never want to have to use this safety feature, but it's there if/when you need it. Kind of like airbags, I suppose.

In that example, it took a pretty big chunk out of the hot dog. It's not losing a finger, but man, that would still be a mess!

[Prostheta]

I see that the real-life demonstration was the dude edging his finger towards the blade a smidgeon at a time, whereas in a real situation, you'd be moving it at up to a foot per second. I wonder if "normal" blades can take those 1000G of deceleration, or whether they're made for the purpose.

Here's a demo at normal speed:

You can use any blade you want, but tripping the mechanism ruins the blade. You also have to replace the brake. Personally, I'd rather be out about $200 than one of my fingers. The idea is that you never want to have to use this safety feature, but it's there if/when you need it. Kind of like airbags, I suppose.

I personally wouldn't drive a car with the airbag on a hair trigger, especially if it ruined my brakes when it went off in my face :-D

[Kenny]

yes, but a mess compared to what...just imagine that incident if you didnt have it

i think it would be a relief to see a cut, unstead of a stump

[ToddW]

I personally wouldn't drive a car with the airbag on a hair trigger, especially if it ruined my brakes when it went off in my face :-D

Reasonable, because an airbag could hurt you or cause an accident. the brake on this saw can only ruin a blade, and if you want to turn the feature off to saw wet wood, you can.

As a physician who saw too many tablesaw, shaper, jointer injuries back when I used to work in the ER, I can vouch for the cost effectiveness of this if it protects you one out of ten times it fires. You get a bad cut, but the injuries are soooooo much less severe than they would be without the brake.

The only reason it's not the only saw on my list is that I like sliding tables.

Todd

[Bmth Builder]

At least if it went off when you were cutting wood for a guitar you would know it wasnt dry enough, its saving you the pain of it warping once the builds complete

Edited December 15, 2008 by Neil Beith

[Rick500]

There are some pictures of actual SawStop saves here.

[RAI6]

There are some pictures of actual SawStop saves here.

Yeah, I would rather have a nick than a stump......

[reantel]

They also have a chopsaw and bandsaw coming out.

http://www.sawstop.com/products-future-products.htm

too bad your finger has to be wet and salty. i dont usually wet my fingers when wood working. maybe i should start though.

[Rick500]

The trigger doesn't work on salt and moisture, it works on capacitance.

[fookgub]

They also have a chopsaw and bandsaw coming out.

http://www.sawstop.com/products-future-products.htm

hmm... bandsaws are pretty safe as far a power saws are concerned. They should be working on a SawStop jointer... talk about a finger muncher.

[ToddW]

They also have a chopsaw and bandsaw coming out.

http://www.sawstop.com/products-future-products.htm

hmm... bandsaws are pretty safe as far a power saws are concerned. They should be working on a SawStop jointer... talk about a finger muncher.

too . . .

They're all good ideas!

[guitar_player]

I see that the real-life demonstration was the dude edging his finger towards the blade a smidgeon at a time, whereas in a real situation, you'd be moving it at up to a foot per second. I wonder if "normal" blades can take those 1000G of deceleration, or whether they're made for the purpose.

Here's a demo at normal speed:

You can use any blade you want, but tripping the mechanism ruins the blade. You also have to replace the brake. Personally, I'd rather be out about $200 than one of my fingers. The idea is that you never want to have to use this safety feature, but it's there if/when you need it. Kind of like airbags, I suppose.

In that example, it took a pretty big chunk out of the hot dog. It's not losing a finger, but man, that would still be a mess!

I would much rather have the mess lol. I bet my dad would rather have had the mess hat would heal instead of just part of it that he has now.

[Prostheta]

It's definitely a spectacular invention, no doubt about it. I bet a router version would be much more difficult to make "safe" on the basis of the high RPM making the stop time much more critical.

I applaud the guy.