avengers63 Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 WezV and Dirge suggested a Corvus build off. I feel some ground rules and specs should be in place and agreed on before anything happens. Here's what I propose for all who are interested. Basically, it's "follow my original specs" so you don't come in and kill me... I'm NOT changing my plans around an impromptu contest. Set a finite time limit, like be done by April 30th or so. The body must be painted one solid color. Basic woods only: body - poplar, alder, ash, maple, mahogany neck - maple, mahogany fretboard - maple, rosewood inlays - dot one pickup minimal controls - 1 vol, 1 tone, output jack. vol/tone are optional - no extra switching no trem hand made pickguard optional everyone posts their build thread as they're going - no surprise last minute ringers additional GOTM-like poll to decide the winner If this sounds reasonable, sign up. If not, make a suggestion. I'd think the most reasonable thing to shift is the time limit. At the same time, we're currently at 7 weeks and a couple of days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 Yeah right...I remember how these things work out...and that's with a good looking guitar... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim37 Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 Your just trying ot get Pete Fired up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avengers63 Posted March 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 Yeah right...I remember how these things work out...and that's with a good looking guitar... I remember reading through some old threads with build-offs. Just remember - I didn't suggest it. It's not on me when I'm the only one with a finished instrument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 i think i might just be intrested! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avengers63 Posted March 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 Isn't getting Pete all riled up reason enough to have a bunch of them made? OH, I'm sorry - to have a murder of them made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 The body must be painted one solid color. Basic woods only: body - poplar, alder, ash, maple, mahogany neck - maple, mahogany fretboard - maple, rosewood inlays - dot one pickup minimal controls - 1 vol, 1 tone, output jack. vol/tone are optional - no extra switching no trem hand made pickguard optional How boring...a bunch of identical guitars...why would anyone agree to those rules...it stifles creativity Just saying,that's all.Two months(barely) to hack together a guitar...hardly time to build a neck... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 I guess that was just my butthoole comment of the night...but I would hope if there were ANY kind of any "build off" that it would leave room in the rules for some type of artistic interpretation...not just "build this exact thing or die!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j. pierce Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 I think you're going about this all wrong. The obvious goal here is drive Pete nuts with an army of Corvuses. (Corvi?) Too much work, however. You could build miniature ones, which, while the effect might be diminished, could easily be mailed to him, one a day, everyday, until he goes batty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avengers63 Posted March 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 (edited) How boring...a bunch of identical guitars...why would anyone agree to those rules...it stifles creativity Here's the motivator - I'm making the thing anyway, and I'm not going to change my overall plans for a build-off. It'd be all too easy for someone with the time & money to swoop in with some fanned-fret wood-porn and steal the show. Add to that it's a proposed Corvus build off, not a whatever you want build off. We already have one of those every month. With things simplified like this, there will be very little there to hide or disguise whatever minor mistakes we might make. It's just as hard to make a clean, streamlined ax as it is a bling machine. In some ways, it can even be harder. And don't forget Wes - some folks work a LOT faster than you do. Seven weeks might not be long enough for you to do just the neck, but for someone else it might have 6 weeks left over. Edited March 11, 2009 by avengers63 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 At least make them camo so that you can't see the hideousness so much... Maybe clear acrylic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anderekel Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 Yeah, I agree with Wes. I think there should be a longer time limit (for instance in the beginning of april I have a big class and will be gone for like 10 days, plus work and whatnot). I also think that the rules should just be make it look like a corvus. Personally I think it would look weird with too many electronics, but I don't think it should be prohibited in the rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 Here's the motivator - I'm making the thing anyway, and I'm not going to change my overall plans for a build-off. It'd be all too easy for someone with the time & money to swoop in with some fanned-fret wood-porn and steal the show. To be honest it sounds more like you are trying to lopside any potential contest to favor you. And yes..you do build more guitars alot faster than most...but you are not making necks,and you are making alot of mistakes...which tells me you should slow down... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psw Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 How about April 1st...since this is obviously an april fools joke... pete ps...send me the plans and I'll show you a corvus buddy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avengers63 Posted March 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 I'm open to suggestions. That's all my proposed guidelines were anyway - suggestions. AND I figured the time was too short, but I wanted to throw something out there. Honestly, I don't think it'd look good with a lot of bling and wood porn. The shape just doesn't lend itself well to our usual trends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 Honestly, I don't think it'd look good with a lot of bling and wood porn. The shape just doesn't lend itself well to our usual trends. True enough..but who knows...someone might surprise us all and actually make it look almost decent...If it were me I would build a composite or aluminum armrest attachment of some sort.And make it a neck through. Not that I would build one. ever.Why waste good wood...how demeaning that would be to a tree... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avengers63 Posted March 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 (edited) To be honest it sounds more like you are trying to lopside any potential contest to favor you. I wasn't looking for a contest in the first place. I'm still not, but if there's desire, then why not. I'm building one anyway... ps...send me the plans and I'll show you a corvus buddy! Make your own template. It's not like construction grade pine is expensive. And with you not working either, it's not like you don't have the time. And make it a neck through. That'd be well within my proposed limits, so long as it's maple or mahogany. Edited March 11, 2009 by avengers63 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psw Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 I didn't read that it had to be wood...I was thinking...cardboard! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avengers63 Posted March 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 I didn't read that it had to be wood...I was thinking...cardboard! not much sustain there and it wouldn't take the paint well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 and it wouldn't take the paint well Use testors model paint. I have a better idea...contest to see who can make the most hideous corvus...rotten wood,splotchy paint...rusty nails... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psw Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 Who needs sustain...I'll put a sustainer on it! Seriously...how do I get the "shape"...april 1st right? I won't accept the single pickup and no trem thing...I'm not buying any hardware for such a folly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the telecaster kid Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 (edited) Jesus Wes, why so negative? I think it's an amusing idea. All that anti-corvus stuff was bothering me. I personally think it's a cool shape. I'm in at least. I have some questions though. Does the neck have to be one piece, or can it be laminated? Also, does the pickup have to be a humbucker, and if so, are there any restrictions on what kind? And also, are we limited on the headstock shape? Edited March 11, 2009 by the telecaster kid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psw Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 Jesus Wes, why so negative? See: Can-opener thread if you need more reasons why... I personally think it's a cool shape. You are misguided and should seek professional attention...at least have your eyes checked! If it is a corvus build off...it should be a corvus of sorts...headless and such is really way outside the corvus design...that opens it up to just about anything...in which case I'll reenter my tele as a "corvus" that I "fixed" the design faults on! pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WezV Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 i was really just having fun when i suggested a build off for me personally time is really an issue and i couldnt justify taking on something like this at the moment. I do like build offs but its not a competitive thing for me - i really enjoy seeing how other people approach the same basic idea for me i wouldnt take part in a build off if the spec was decided - not because i want to kick johns ass with a fanned fret jobby with a zircote fretboard and some other funky wood porn bling i just dont think its the right way to limit it. I think budget, time and basic shape are much better limitations and really allow each builder to show there own style without someone throwing loads of money and expensive features at it to make it win having said that, i do fancy building one at some point. i think i would approach it 1 of 2 ways. either it would be a straight up replica or it would be a headless, ergonic corvus. My first thoughts are a completely black body with maple/maple neck bound in black with black dot or block position markers. the idea is for something that has 80's ideas and an 80's look so it has a vibe contemporary with an original - basically a replica of the way i think a corvus should have been built once someone has a template sorted can i scrounge (or even pay for!!) a copy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirge for november Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 I agree with WezV. I would like to do this just for the heck of it, yet don't have that much time so I could never make those deadlines. Beside all this it would be my second guitar, so with lack of experience and gear it would take a lot longer. I won't tell you guys my ideas of improvement as it would spoil the surprise! Cheers, and in case you guys do this without me. Good luck and have fun! PS the fact that it's a contraversial guitar makes it more interesting and challenging Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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