mj_gant Posted January 2, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2004 What do you mean by "outgrown"? My style of playing has changed over the years and I hardly ever require floating trems. I had an endorsement with BC Rich and Ibanez when I played professionally. I now have about 8-10 custom shop guitars almost all with Kahler floyds or edge trems. I have disabled most of them so that I can do alternate tunings quickly, without the need to reset springs and such. I do some teaching, etc... that requires me to be able to tune a guitar to a song in seconds, not many minutes and fussing with a screw driver to set the float correctly. The method of inserting a block in the cavity and loading up with springs works well, but I still have to cut ball ends and I still have these clunky pieces of metal that I simply no longer use. I was just poking around to see if anyone was producing a simple bridge that would replace a Floyd without alterations. Thanks for the brainstorms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saber Posted January 2, 2004 Report Share Posted January 2, 2004 I have outgrown fixed bridges and have moved on to trems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Litchfield Custom Gutars Posted January 2, 2004 Report Share Posted January 2, 2004 they work fine,snork...the problemis that you can't change tunings in a matter of seconds like with a fixed bridge.so if you play different tunings for different songs and you don't have multiple guitars,you need a fixed bridge. i have both or about 6 EVH d tunas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveq Posted January 2, 2004 Report Share Posted January 2, 2004 I have outgrown fixed bridges and have moved on to trems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86barettaguy Posted January 3, 2004 Report Share Posted January 3, 2004 What do you mean by "outgrown"? My style of playing has changed over the years and I hardly ever require floating trems. I had an endorsement with BC Rich and Ibanez when I played professionally. I now have about 8-10 custom shop guitars almost all with Kahler floyds or edge trems. I have disabled most of them so that I can do alternate tunings quickly, without the need to reset springs and such. I do some teaching, etc... that requires me to be able to tune a guitar to a song in seconds, not many minutes and fussing with a screw driver to set the float correctly. The method of inserting a block in the cavity and loading up with springs works well, but I still have to cut ball ends and I still have these clunky pieces of metal that I simply no longer use. I was just poking around to see if anyone was producing a simple bridge that would replace a Floyd without alterations. Thanks for the brainstorms. how about just setting them up so that you have at least one guitar for each tuning you use? I mean, you're not using more than 8 different tunings, are you? on a side note, floyds aren't that bad. sure, they look slightly out of place when playing blues or whatever, but they're the best trems available. the fender-style trem (which is used by many people who think floyds aren't worth the trouble of setting them up) has all the same problems as the floyd and then some! there are only 3 reasons to use one of those instead of a floyd: 1) you think they look better on your guitar, 2) you don't have to cut the ball-ends off and worry about cracking the small locking blocks, 3) you think it has a major impact on your tone. but they still require more attention to stay in tune and even then they don't perform as good as an OFR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultraman Posted January 4, 2004 Report Share Posted January 4, 2004 they work fine,snork...the problemis that you can't change tunings in a matter of seconds like with a fixed bridge.so if you play different tunings for different songs and you don't have multiple guitars,you need a fixed bridge. i have both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevan Posted January 4, 2004 Report Share Posted January 4, 2004 they work fine,snork...the problemis that you can't change tunings in a matter of seconds like with a fixed bridge.so if you play different tunings for different songs and you don't have multiple guitars,you need a fixed bridge. ...unless you install a Tremol-No. Then you can do all the freaky tunings you want, on a Floyd, just as fast as you can on a hardtail. Did everyone miss that link I put up a few posts ago? And to whomever whipped out the "I have to cut off ball ends", try this: Run the strings backwards. Put the ball ends at the tuning machines, and run the string back toward the trem. Clip. Done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted January 4, 2004 Report Share Posted January 4, 2004 still have to clip the roundwound strings,at least all the ones i have seen have the center running well past the outer windings. i don't see what the big deal is though,you already have a set of clippers handy for the other end anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digideus Posted January 4, 2004 Report Share Posted January 4, 2004 Run the strings backwards. Put the ball ends at the tuning machines, and run the string back toward the trem. Clip. Done. Or leave them on A-La Kerry King style. Just dont leave them TOO long cos they can hurt when you walk into a guitarist swinging his axe around and 6 ball ends lump you in the face! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86barettaguy Posted January 4, 2004 Report Share Posted January 4, 2004 Run the strings backwards. Put the ball ends at the tuning machines, and run the string back toward the trem. Clip. Done. Or leave them on A-La Kerry King style. Just dont leave them TOO long cos they can hurt when you walk into a guitarist swinging his axe around and 6 ball ends lump you in the face! or your kids could mistake them for something eatable (my daughter keeps putting them in her mouth whenever I sit down to play ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted January 4, 2004 Report Share Posted January 4, 2004 i reached over to my amp once and a string went through the grill and shorted across a couple of circuits....clip them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevan Posted January 4, 2004 Report Share Posted January 4, 2004 Or leave them on A-La Kerry King style. Just dont leave them TOO long cos they can hurt when you walk into a guitarist swinging his axe around and 6 ball ends lump you in the face! Ball-ends or bare, nothing looks less professional than a runaway Koosh on your headstock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted January 4, 2004 Report Share Posted January 4, 2004 Or leave them on A-La Kerry King style. Just dont leave them TOO long cos they can hurt when you walk into a guitarist swinging his axe around and 6 ball ends lump you in the face! Ball-ends or bare, nothing looks less professional than a runaway Koosh on your headstock. a what?i don't understand that word Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krazyderek Posted January 4, 2004 Report Share Posted January 4, 2004 this looks pretty funky too http://www.schaller-guitarparts.de/1231.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krizalid Posted January 5, 2004 Report Share Posted January 5, 2004 mj_gant, since you don't want to use floyd trem no more, do you consider to sell them? i kind of need one of those in my guitar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevan Posted January 5, 2004 Report Share Posted January 5, 2004 this looks pretty funky too http://www.schaller-guitarparts.de/1231.htm Now, do you really want to stick that to the face of your guitar? Nevermind if it's a 20th Anniv. Vigier or a super-store blowout; what about something sticking up by your trem to hinder your playing? How'd ya like to be strumming nicely and bonk into that thing? :-) Lastly, how well do you think that double-stick tape works? And for how long? Oh, you've got a carved top, well.... :-P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted January 5, 2004 Report Share Posted January 5, 2004 that is for string changes anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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