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I am planning a project for my own sound style which is closer to fender stratocaster sound....but....i dont like the shape...so much...

i am thinking what woods for body,neck,fingerboard to choose to be closer...Besides what kind of pick ups???SSS/HH???

WOODS available...

padauk/sapelle/sycamore/elm/cedar of lebanon/zebra/wenge/rosewood/bubinga/cocobolo/cherry/maple/mulberry

walnut/purpleheart/

i know alder is the key but another substitttion with personal sound???

what about pick ups???only sss is the key???

could you advise me what to do and keep in mind to achieve this sound character?

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make a strat shaped guitar with a maple neck, alder body, synchronised tremolo, 3 single coil pickups with the bridge pickup angled towards the neck and you might get the sound.... lol

basically - all of the above contribute to the sound character of a Strat, it depends on how close you want to be to a Strat sound, but changing the body shape shouldn't affect it too much as long as the size/weight/density are about the same

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make a strat shaped guitar with a maple neck, alder body, synchronised tremolo, 3 single coil pickups with the bridge pickup angled towards the neck and you might get the sound.... lol

basically - all of the above contribute to the sound character of a Strat, it depends on how close you want to be to a Strat sound, but changing the body shape shouldn't affect it too much as long as the size/weight/density are about the same

lol

any more serious answer???? :D

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lol.... it was a serious answer!!!

my personal opinion on woods is that out of the woods you have..

padauk - heavy & bright but good for neck

sapelle - lighter but warmer neck/body

sycamore - heavy & bright

elm - no experience

cedar of lebanon - no experience

zebra - ok for a drop/carved top but could be really heavy for a body maybe too unstable to use as a neck unleass laminated

wenge - heavy for a body but grat for a neck

rosewood - heavy for a body but grat for a neck

bubinga - same as above

cocobolo - same as above

cherry - good for a body

maple - heavy/bright for a body but good for a neck

mulberry - no experience

walnut - good for both body & neck

purpleheart - heavy for a body but good for a neck

basically what i was trying to say was the more parts you keep like a strat then the less you will deviate away from the "Strat" sound.

personally I would go for a walnut body & walnut & maple laminated or rosewood neck with a tremolo & 3 single coils out of the stuff you've mentioned.... but anyone else feel free to chime in...

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Bubinga has the snappy tone you want,but since it is heavy you should do what you can to make it as thin as you can and as light as possible...if I was going after something like that I would also bevel and sweep everything as much as possible as well,because all of that takes away wood and therefore weight.

I would use walnut for the neck,if you can find a straight grained piece...it could smooth out some of the highs in the bubinga.

If you kept the body about 1 1/8" thick,with a fixed strat style bridge and took away wood wherever you could,you might get the weight of the finished guitar down to 6 or 7 pounds....if you keep the finish thin.

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make a strat shaped guitar with a maple neck, alder body, synchronised tremolo, 3 single coil pickups with the bridge pickup angled towards the neck and you might get the sound.... lol

basically - all of the above contribute to the sound character of a Strat, it depends on how close you want to be to a Strat sound, but changing the body shape shouldn't affect it too much as long as the size/weight/density are about the same

lol

any more serious answer???? :D

that was the answer i was going to give... maybe less so with the shape other than it should have two cutaways... but all those other factors supple mentioned are the major contributers to the characteristic strat sound.

you wont get a strat sound out of a HH set-up so it really needs to be SSS or HSS if you want to keep a humbucker in there somewhere

out of the woods you have i would be going for sycamore, cedar or cherry for the body. sycamore is brighter than traditional strat woods, but a good piece can be warmer and more complex than people would think, bright and snappy but still nice. cedars are gaining popularity as an alternative wood for bodies, although i have not tried one with the lebanon. None will sound exactly like a fender strat, but if its got a trem most wont notice the tonal difference.

You have maple and rosewood so follow the strat recipe for the neck

Now if the strat sound isnt really that important, as your response to supple suggests, then your options really open up a lot as you have access to many woods that will work for fretboards, necks and bodies... its just a case of making them work

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make a strat shaped guitar with a maple neck, alder body, synchronised tremolo, 3 single coil pickups with the bridge pickup angled towards the neck and you might get the sound.... lol

basically - all of the above contribute to the sound character of a Strat, it depends on how close you want to be to a Strat sound, but changing the body shape shouldn't affect it too much as long as the size/weight/density are about the same

lol

any more serious answer???? :D

None will sound exactly like a fender strat, but if its got a trem most wont notice the tonal difference.

could you explain why?

thank all of you for your interest but i have a great curiosity about this cedar of lebanon i own which is over 300 yeas old....

that would probably add some credits....besides its very light....

My alternative is sycamore as you mention cause is also very light...

i forgot the basswood i have but i dont really belie it can do my work.....

this elm i have an idea of black grain filling it and look like new PRS model...but its.....far from strats....

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others may disagree but i think the tone of the body wood is less noticeable on trem equipped guitars, doesnt rule it out altogether and there are still noticable differences between extremes as always... but generally i find the neck wood becomes more noticable in the tone than the body

if you have basswood its probably a good chocie for this, plenty of fairly collectable MIJ strats are made from basswood. Not my favorite wood to use but its certainly tonally transparent to work in most things

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Not to turn this into a tonewood discussion, but IMO, I think wood has less of a tonal effect on Strats (especially trem-equipped) than any other guitar. The pickups are mounted to a flimsy piece of plastic, the strings transfer vibration to a bunch of springs, and they were designed to be cheap, quick and easy to produce. It all adds up to some great guitars, mind you.

You'll end up with some awesome Stratty tones if you go with a 25.5" scale and good single coils.

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Not to turn this into a tonewood discussion, but IMO, I think wood has less of a tonal effect on Strats (especially trem-equipped) than any other guitar. The pickups are mounted to a flimsy piece of plastic, the strings transfer vibration to a bunch of springs, and they were designed to be cheap, quick and easy to produce. It all adds up to some great guitars, mind you.

You'll end up with some awesome Stratty tones if you go with a 25.5" scale and good single coils.

i guess this it the correct...scale and single coil....

any suggested label for single coil for original sound???

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At one point I had a Carvin strat...alder body,Maple neck and fretboard,and three single coils with the plastic pickgaurd..sounded just like a strat to me.But instead of that hokey strat trem it had a fixed bridge like this one.

http://www.carvinguitars.com/products/sing...FT6C&cid=88

Very nice guitar.Much nicer than a Fender IMO

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At one point I had a Carvin strat...alder body,Maple neck and fretboard,and three single coils with the plastic pickgaurd..sounded just like a strat to me.But instead of that hokey strat trem it had a fixed bridge like this one.

http://www.carvinguitars.com/products/sing...FT6C&cid=88

Very nice guitar.Much nicer than a Fender IMO

well i love Tele shape but Strat sound....hahaha....So,that's gonna be a hybrid.

tele body with 3 single coils i think....non tremolo system....

about the woods ...i think the guys gave me a good point of view to think of...

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