Drak Posted April 10, 2004 Report Share Posted April 10, 2004 QUOTE (Drak @ Apr 9 2004, 06:35 PM) ...too much speed and technique and the feeling and soul suffer. I totally disagree but that is totally subjective anyway. BTW, I think DiMeola has more speed and less technique. You're right Saber, I was typing too fast. Even I don't 'completely' agree with that! Yes, I can write some very dumbassed things, hehehe... Having followed both careers and having seen them both perform more than once, I would have to reverse the two names in everything you wrote about them. But then again it's all subjective and I would never dare trying to state that as fact. Agree with you there also. I just like Al more, always have, just a personal thing. I also would not try to factually state one was better, it's just my personal view, don't mean ****. BTW, I was actually dozing off during the Electric half of one of DiMeola's concerts and thought there was something wrong with me until I looked around and saw several other people slouched low in their seats. That never happened at a McLaughlin concert. Well, I would say that both of them have had some slumpy points in their careers. As a side note, I opened my box of concert photos a few nights ago (I used to shoot almost every show I went to way back when, I probably have 75 rolls) ...and I found 2 rolls of photos from the DiMeola/McLaughlin/DeLuca acoustic tour they did in, what, ...around '79 or so, I forgot I even had them, found a ton of great shots I had completely forgot about. Whatever we say about them, they certainly enjoyed playing with each other, the fun they were having is very obvious in the shots. I gotta get all that stuff transferred to digital one of these damned fine sunny days... PS, Paco ain't no slouch either. I go apeshit over flamenco guitarists, I love it. That's probably why I love Al so much, he can do the flamenco thing and the fusion thing, he can rock it out and he can go completely traditional Latin at the drop of a hat on a dime. I love his diversity and his willingness to forge ahead into new areas and take chances. Of course, John has done that also. I just give Al the edge cuz he can pull off the latin/spanish/italian thing better than John, but that's Al's forte, John has other areas he excels in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saber Posted April 10, 2004 Report Share Posted April 10, 2004 As a side note, I opened my box of concert photos a few nights ago (I used to shoot almost every show I went to way back when, I probably have 75 rolls) ...and I found 2 rolls of photos from the DiMeola/McLaughlin/DeLuca acoustic tour they did in, what, ...around '79 or so, I forgot I even had them, found a ton of great shots I had completely forgot about. Whatever we say about them, they certainly enjoyed playing with each other, the fun they were having is very obvious in the shots. I gotta get all that stuff transferred to digital one of these damned fine sunny days... PS, Paco ain't no slouch either. I go apeshit over flamenco guitarists, I love it. That's probably why I love Al so much, he can do the flamenco thing and the fusion thing, he can rock it out and he can go completely traditional Latin at the drop of a hat on a dime. I love his diversity and his willingness to forge ahead into new areas and take chances. I regret having missed that "Meeting of the Spirits" tour. However I was fortunate enough to have seen them all individually. In fact, Paco played the second part of a three part concert at the Montreal jazz fest where the McLaughlin Trio was the closing act (Milton Nascimento opened the show). Needless to say, Paco was amazingly inspiring with his 7 musicians including a Flamenco dancer. I'm not a fan of Flamenco dancing but he was incredible and most of the audience certainly agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saber Posted April 10, 2004 Report Share Posted April 10, 2004 ..I love Al so much, he can do the flamenco thing and the fusion thing, he can rock it out and he can go completely traditional Latin at the drop of a hat on a dime. The first half of the DiMeola concert that I saw was acoustic. The second half was electric. I really enjoyed the acoustic part but I felt that the electric half was a bit of a let down. I guess there's no accountng for taste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drak Posted April 10, 2004 Report Share Posted April 10, 2004 Well, he has gone thru several morphs throughout his career, some were kinda blah, but I applaude his guts to try out different material and not lean on his old stuff like some has-been revival act. Not everything flies, but he still is willing to venture out and try it. Last time I saw him, the electric stuff was kept to a minimum, but he broke into 'Race With The Devil' on a beautiful PRS hollowbody, as fast and clean as he ever was, and the whole place went berserk and absolutely erupted, everyone lept to their feet and applauded and cheered and screamed like madcakes. Getting shivers up my back just thinking about it, it was great. I also got to see the Return To Forever reunion concert about '81, and Al is kinda a laid back reserved guy, but he stalked the front of that stage like a wildcat that show, whipping out inhumanly unreal runs on his black Les Paul. A great pleasure to see Stanley Clarke and Chick Corea and Lenny White too. Christ what a band that was. OK, I'm stoked up, I'm off to slap on some Al, hehehe... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitarMaestro Posted April 10, 2004 Report Share Posted April 10, 2004 Pff....There will NEVER be a best guitarist. There are far too many spectacular players out there who exceed in their own style..... But your list would definately be my hate list....lol I mean Angus Young, Slash and Santa are the most boring players to me. They wrote great songs that cannot be denied, but they are technically not good at all and play exactly the same stuff for 20 years now without any innovation. Santana nearly plays the same solo in every song....And don't tell me about the great feel of their playing....there are countless better guitarists that play with feel as well....EVH, Satriani, Vai.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slaughthammer Posted April 10, 2004 Report Share Posted April 10, 2004 as for me, i much agree with GM, but my heroes are the neo-classical shredders like yngwie malmsteen and paul gilbert. maybe that's because i like classical music a lot, especially the baroque stuff.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsl602000 Posted April 10, 2004 Report Share Posted April 10, 2004 It's not out of tune. He used some kind of effect, maybe a ring modulator, probably to tribute Hendrix's imperfect "out-of-tune" style. I feel a lot of emotional intensity in that solo but that's just my opinion. you're kiddin', right? I'd rather listen to Madonna farting than that horrible solo. Maybe he doesn't play out of tune.. it sounds out of tune though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drak Posted April 10, 2004 Report Share Posted April 10, 2004 I'm listening to Al DiMeola's 'Casino' right now, cheesin' like a big fartin' dawg...and doing a Pearl binding job on my Koa Tele. Maybe I'll call it the 'Al-a-Caster. ___________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saber Posted April 10, 2004 Report Share Posted April 10, 2004 I'd rather listen to Madonna farting... Well I guess there's no accounting for taste. I applaud you for having the courage to share your musical preferences with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saber Posted April 10, 2004 Report Share Posted April 10, 2004 I also got to see the Return To Forever reunion concert about '81, and Al is kinda a laid back reserved guy, but he stalked the front of that stage like a wildcat that show, whipping out inhumanly unreal runs on his black Les Paul. A great pleasure to see Stanley Clarke and Chick Corea and Lenny White too. Christ what a band that was. Now that's a band I'd love to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsl602000 Posted April 10, 2004 Report Share Posted April 10, 2004 I applaud you for having the courage to share your musical preferences with us. I'm glad you take it in a humoristic way. I still hate that solo though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbkim Posted April 10, 2004 Report Share Posted April 10, 2004 I also got to see the Return To Forever reunion concert about '81, and Al is kinda a laid back reserved guy, but he stalked the front of that stage like a wildcat that show, whipping out inhumanly unreal runs on his black Les Paul. A great pleasure to see Stanley Clarke and Chick Corea and Lenny White too. Christ what a band that was. Now that's a band I'd love to see. That was a life changing experience for me at the tender age of 14 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drak Posted April 10, 2004 Report Share Posted April 10, 2004 That must've been pretty cool at 14, I gotta admit that. I bet a year younger at 13 it might not have sunk in quite the same? ____________ OK, Casino's over, now I've got Roy Buchanan on, wrenching and torturing the living daylights out of his Tele. ...and I'm outside building a Tele. ...and the Pearl binding is going better than expected. ...Life is good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbkim Posted April 10, 2004 Report Share Posted April 10, 2004 That must've been pretty cool at 14, I gotta admit that. I bet a year younger at 13 it might not have sunk in quite the same? Hmm... at 13 I was listening to Gary Numan. "Here in my car, I feel safest of all. I can lock all my doors, it's the only way to live." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saber Posted April 10, 2004 Report Share Posted April 10, 2004 Ah, if we're discussing all-time favorite... hmm, only one... has to be Holdsworth. I like his incredibly original style but I'm not extremely fond of his compositions. Most of his playing that I like is on other people's material. The first time I heard him was on a Soft Machine album called Bundles and it blew me away. I also like the stuff he did with Bill Bruford and his solos in the group U.K. which is the only band that I saw him play live with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drak Posted April 10, 2004 Report Share Posted April 10, 2004 "Here in my car, I feel safest of all. I can lock all my doors, it's the only way to live." Hey, I still dig that tune. I loved all that '80's Euro-Pop stuff. I like his incredibly original style but I'm not extremely fond of his compositions. Most of his playing that I like is on other people's material. The first time I heard him was on a Soft Machine album called Bundles and it blew me away. I also like the stuff he did with Bill Bruford and his solos in the group U.K. which is the only band that I saw him play live with. Y'know, I have to agree with you there. His playing on Tony Williams' Lifetime was pretty smoking too. But his own albums, they did lack a good song or three to wrap his playing around. I got to see him and Steve Morse do a double-header in some hole-in-the-wall dive in Baltimore one rainy night long ago. The ceiling was leaking, and they had a bucket in front of the stage catching water where there was a hole in the ceiling dripping water almost onto the stage. Ahhh, those were the days, hehehe... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noviceluthier Posted April 11, 2004 Report Share Posted April 11, 2004 Look its common knowledge that there are guitarists around the world that are technically "better" than guitarists in the spotlight. But in terms of the best guitarists, my vote has to go Jimi hendrix. Listen to some of his songs, and you can not deny his extreme originality and talent." All along the watchtower" , which is a cover, is for instance , is brillaint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsherman2006 Posted April 11, 2004 Report Share Posted April 11, 2004 I have to say it's a toss-up between Hendrix and Vai, and since Vai isn't on here and I already voted for him in another poll, I'll go with Hendrix. I would say that Vai has more speed and technique, but Hendrix has the upper hand in creativity and originality imo, plus he just has this Hendrix aura that makes him one of the immortals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajb Posted April 19, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2004 some of u are making this a huge deal, i said on the first page make it your favorite guitarists on the list, instead of whihc u feel is the greatest, some of you are too picky, if you feel that this poll was not to your standards than dont complain about it go ta different forum, there is nothing worse than a whiner, especially over somthin like that, come on guys. I'm sure someone will quote me and tell me what i just wrote is wrong for awtever reason, thats just pathetic if you do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted April 19, 2004 Report Share Posted April 19, 2004 ajb,your spelling and grammatical errors are getting tedious.is there a reason for it?is english not your first language or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanKirk Posted April 20, 2004 Report Share Posted April 20, 2004 I'm sure someone will quote me and tell me what i just wrote is wrong for awtever reason it's not awtever...it's whatever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marko Posted April 20, 2004 Report Share Posted April 20, 2004 TONY IOMMI !!!!!!!!! nobody plays riff like Iommi! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajb Posted April 21, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2004 true, he is good, but not as good as hendrix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajb Posted April 27, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 very funny vankirk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibreakemineedtobuildem Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 I say SRV would be my pick. Tony Iommi would be the most ahead of his time. Every1 knows ozzy,because of Tonys riffs. Every1 is still copying T O. Maybe I change to Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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