Unleashing the Mod from Hell

[Kevan]

...and by the way, wes doesnt loose any posts (if im not mistaken) when you delete a thread, its the same as deleting a post, you dont loose anything, and if anything got lost Brian or someone could give wes his several hundred thousand posts.

Post count is about to go bye-bye. Soon, everyone will be at zero.

Kevan, thanks for cleaning the site up, far too many pointless posts in tutorial or pictorial threads. also that rant section i think would give a bad impression to anyone who visits and decides to check it out. perhaps make it available to download so all the precious (repeated, tedious) jokes and retorts can be saved.

You're welcome, Mike.

We're trying to change our image, a little, for the better! Think of it as an episode of Queer Eye For The Straight Guy..online. The grunge era is over (sorry Nickelback), and we're gonna start wearing clean socks.

what are the rules for idiot posting? i mean, whats the penalty for being a dork and saying something like "tits" in the middle of a pictorial or something... you know who you are. this is irritating when its a fantastic pictorial,  but gets degraded with stupid kiddie posting. i did use the report button, but i dont think it works. any news on that?

I'm gonna talk to Bri about getting the Rant section burned to CD or to a ZIP so folks can have it on their own computer.

If the member feels the need to blurt something out, or completely hijack a thread, they'll get one warning in the thread and via PM (I don't want to hear any bitching about 'I didn't see your warning'), and if they violate the rules again, they're on a cruise.

Two strikes and you're out.

I'll check into the Report button not working. In the meantime, you can PM or email any of the Mods, Brian or myself. You can easily find any of us by clicking the "Members" icon at the top of every page, and selecting "Showing.....Admin" or search for Kevan, Brian, Wes, Simon, etc. in the Member list. Pretty painless.

This is a forum for teaching.

Correct.

If it was filled with pros completely, you wouldn't be teaching anyone new how to build guitars.

Incorrect.

If you stop teaching, you stop learning yourself.

I've seen TONS of pros out there online helping other pros out, on this Forum and others. Yes, some pros are guarded in what they put out online, but I would venture to guess that about 95% of them are willing to help out the new generation of luthiers, as well as the established ones.

Thanks Jehle. I'll be looking for your help in spotting rouge threads. :-)

[Dr. Jabsco]

i think cleanin up a bit is a good idea, but your taking this overboard.

I mean, getting rid of rant section is one thing. (one bad one i may add)

but resetting posts, banning members cause they say the wrong thing, all of that is just dumb as hell *i suspose im allowed to say hell, or are you going to "send me on a vacation"*

one of the reasons so many people come here, is because its a place where you can just let loose and talk about your guitar woes, and how to fix them. If we all wanted a mother/father figure standing over us ready to spray some soppy water in our mouths, we would go over to the MIMF.

[SguitarM527]

this doesnt have to be a place where we can let loose... do you konw how many nonsense forums there are where people can post whatever they want? hell is one thing, but "you f*cking f*cker" is annother... i agree with kevan and the rest of em, we dont need it, this forum should be able strictly guitar building... im wondering if we even need an off-topic section.

[westhemann]

off topic sections are great in my opinion...i have even seen brian using it quite a bit...i think it helps us get to know one another and makes us a guitar building COMMUNITY rather than just a collection of people

kevan can correct me if i am wrong but i think he is talking about getting rid of post counts altogether,rather than resetting them at zero....this is a move that has been discussed before and one i totally agree with...i never gave a damn about my post count and i still don't,this was just the only forum i was a part of for a long time,and so all my spare time was spent here learning,sharing info,and posting in the slam topic with the friends that i made here...friends that i would never have made without this forum and would not be as close to without the slam topic.

i loved the slam topic,but it really has been turned into crap lately....part of that is my fault as well...but what alot of people never seemed to get(brian understood i think)is that 99% of it was all just good fun.

the post counts have a negative connotation i think more than a positive one...i always hated hearing "oh,THAT'S why you have such a high post count."post count means nothing,and i also really don't like the top ten posters of the day thing either

i also like the rant section as a whole,but what will be,will be

[Dr. Jabsco]

oooh, well getting rid of them compleatly is a good idea. thanks for shedding light.

maybe we should put all this up to a vote?

[Kevan]

i think cleanin up a bit is a good idea, but your taking this overboard.

I mean, getting rid of rant section is one thing. (one bad one i may add)

but resetting posts, banning members cause they say the wrong thing, all of that is just dumb as hell *i suspose im allowed to say hell, or are you going to "send me on a vacation"*

one of the reasons so many people come here, is because its a place where you can just let loose and talk about your guitar woes, and how to fix them. If we all wanted a mother/father figure standing over us ready to spray some soppy water in our mouths, we would go over to the MIMF.

Do I *really* need to make a list of acceptable language? Please don't make me. You guys are old enough, and smart enough, to realize what is acceptable.

How about this: Imagine you're posting to your grandmother. That's your limit.

See below for the answer about the "resetting post count" thing.

this doesnt have to be a place where we can let loose... do you konw how many nonsense forums there are where people can post whatever they want? hell is one thing, but "you f*cking f*cker" is annother... i agree with kevan and the rest of em, we dont need it, this forum should be able strictly guitar building... im wondering if we even need an off-topic section.

Well, not *strictly* about guitar building, but that should be our focus. We're not "badjokes.com" or "natashahenstridge.com" so we'll let them focus on those, and we'll try to keep our train on track with guitar stuff.

Pssssst.....16.5 days left on your sig. :-)

off topic sections are great in my opinion...i have even seen brian using it quite a bit...i think it helps us get to know one another and makes us a guitar building COMMUNITY rather than just a collection of people

The Off-Topic section will remain open, and I'd like to keep it around. Sometimes It's not all-guitar stuff that folks are into, esp. on a forum dedicated to those finding new and better ways to do things. I might ask if someone knows where I can find hubcaps for a '72 Pinto hatchback...and, what do you know, Drak happens to have a brother-in-law who runs a hubcap shop in Lexington. Score! (note: I don't know Drak's brother-in-law, or if he owns a hubcap shop anywhere. I was simply using it as an quick example.)

I never would have seen Matrix if it weren't for an off-topics section on a guitar-based forum.

kevan can correct me if i am wrong but i think he is talking about getting rid of post counts altogether,rather than resetting them at zero....

Correct.

As stated earlier in this thread, we're considering "specialist titles" for people. This will go in place of the post count.

Sorry, but there's no voting on this one.

[westhemann]

in other words i think the intent is to make this place the environment it USED to be,a couple of years ago...before all of the drivel

[smitty]

i know i missed out on the point of it, but i was highlighting another-if no newbies are allowed in, then they arent going to learn.

i think off topic area should sstay, but i wont miss the rant section.

can guitar war/peace be moved into players corner?

[westhemann]

can guitar war/peace be moved into players corner?

i like that topic...

[Dr. Jabsco]

I might ask if someone knows where I can find hubcaps for a '72 Pinto hatchback.

hahahaha, clerks right?

yah, that all sounds good. When will it take effect?

[Kevan]

Yes- it's from Clerks.

All changes will be announced, when they happen, in the Announcements section.

Kinda cool how that works out.

i know i missed out on the point of it, but i was highlighting another-if no newbies are allowed in, then they arent going to learn.

i think off topic area should sstay, but i wont miss the rant section.

can guitar war/peace be moved into players corner?

No one is banning newbies.

No one is saying that newbies shouldn't ask questions.

We are, however, asking newbies to run a Search before posting.

If that's asking too much, then maybe they're at the wrong site.

i like guitar peace.

wes. you should record some rhythm guitar down..dont worry.  im not talking about the wrong thign in the wrong place, il stop now...its just that the actual place is closed, so i've no alternative.

You do have an alternative. Actually two:

1. Try checking out the rest of the Internet.

2. Don't post.

[Dr. Jabsco]

ok. il leave your forum beacuse i posted something about guitar peace, when we were talking about guitar peace.

great

well my goodness, i should hope you will... thats a huge violation.

[Kevan]

FROM A DELETED POST:

ok. il leave your forum beacuse i posted something about guitar peace, when we were talking about guitar peace.

great

It's not my forum; it's YOUR Forum.

And instead of throwing a sarcastic hissy-fit online, why don't you try asking for that thread to be moved?

[Dr. Jabsco]

Times are a changin'

still the same PG

i dont care what happens, as long as there is still a nice place to talk about guitars.

[SguitarM527]

i think this is a good thing.., oh no, now we ARENT like everyother guitar site ever... there are acually rules, it will all help keep things organized and people in order...i agree with all the changes, as a newbie my self, on my first guitar project, i hate sorting through thousands of pages to get the answer im looking for, i think everyone will like it once its all said and done

[skibum5545]

I'm glad to see the badges stay. I think it's great that people get recognition for GOTM and VIP stuff, not how much they've posted in the word association game. That said, I don't deserve my post count and I'm glad we're getting rid of them.

[Guest AlexVDL]

Pssssst.....16.5 days left on your sig.  :-)

Yes people, PLEASE get rid of those annoying big sigs!!

Jazz is not too bad, but I don't like to read it in big red words every couple of lines, you know what I mean? Just an example.. no offence

[Guitarfrenzy]

I thought I was a noob and then all of a sudden I'm a VIP and an old timer. I was surprised that I had such a low member number (47 or something). I try to keep thinking like a noob. I know I don't know everything. I suppose I still don't get tired of reading the same old posts.

Jehle your a VIP, meaning that your a Very Important Person..

I'm really excited about the changes that are coming our way. Sound like PG will become an even better source of information and general guitar building knowledge. I'm still for a more organized archive section, if that's something that could be done I'm not sure about, but would help out tremendiously.

[Maiden69]

I like what I'm reading... One question thought, they only way to attain the advance supporter badge will be by donating? This discussion created a lot of turmoil on the last few days but I think it was for good. the Mods have been posting the changes, we have been agreeing, and bringing the issues that might bring problems and you have been keeping up to suggestions... this is great,.

On the post #, I'm glad, because I used to look at them to "rate" the advise given to me the 1st few months after I joined, but then I notices guys just joined and within a month or less are already at 400??? my God! So far I have learned who to asked, and what to listen.

The rant section I won't miss, I think that I got like a post over there, some threads I read, but didn't feel like posting! Keep us posted on the changes... and good job.

Kevan... have you considered my suggestion about pinning the Rules after modifying then on the announcement area... then everybody will post there as in recognition to them. As part of the registration process

[Kevan]

I like what I'm reading... One question thought, they only way to attain the advance supporter badge will be by donating?  This discussion created a lot of turmoil on the last few days but I think it was for good.  the Mods have been posting the changes, we have been agreeing, and bringing the issues that might bring problems and you have been keeping up to suggestions... this is great,.

On the post #, I'm glad, because I used to look at them to "rate" the advise given to me the 1st few months after I joined, but then I notices guys just joined and within a month or less are already at 400??? my God! So far I have learned who to asked, and what to listen.

This is one of the many reasons the Post Count is going away.

Anyone remember the "green dot" fiasco on that other site? Ugh...

Kevan... have you considered my suggestion about pinning the Rules after modifying then on the announcement area... then everybody will post there as in recognition to them. As part of the registration process

Yeah. Gotta wait for Brian on that one. I want to see what he thinks about it. I got an IM from him today that his hair is finally dry, but they're still on battery power.

Give us some time to implement these changes, but those that you can do yourself, PLEASE feel free to get them going. Thanks.

[Dr. Jabsco]

Pssssst.....16.5 days left on your sig.  :-)

Yes people, PLEASE get rid of those annoying big sigs!!

Jazz is not too bad, but I don't like to read it in big red words every couple of lines, you know what I mean? Just an example.. no offence

Oh, sorry. I didnt know that bothered anybody.

ill fix er up

[Kevan]

Oh, sorry. I didnt know that bothered anybody.

ill fix er up

Thanks.

See how easy it is folks?

Just ask the Doc how painless that was....

[Dr. Jabsco]

quite painless infact.

but it ate up 30 seconds I could have been using to clip my toe nails.

[SguitarM527]

as another recent convert, i must say its quite painless... anyways is that link legal in my sig, if not tell me, ill change it...

[litchfield]

Looks legal to me. Just an online magazine deal. Non profit, non business, non commercial.