GregP Posted May 13, 2005 Report Posted May 13, 2005 So, Just looking at plans and actual guitars that feature the Ibanez AANJ, I kept thinking to myself, "Bah, placebo effect. If you look at it, it's rounded off but really only gives you a centimetre more of non-heel. Whoop-dee-doo." I even wanted to post a few times on here asking (but actually insinuating, since I had made my mind up) what was so special about the AANJ and if at the end of the day it really mattered, or if people just liked it because it "seemed" to be a more elegant heel. Now, I shouldn't say that I had a "lesson learned" from this, because as you've noted, I did NOT in fact post such threads. The lesson was actually learned a long time ago not to just spout off without researching first. Unfortunately from time to time, research is theoretical and I still end up in debates, but that's the nature of being a talkative and curious kind of guy. This time, I KNEW that the answer to my question could be found at the music store next time I was in and remembering to check. As luck would have it, I remembered last time I was at Long and McQuade's, and I quickly hunted down an Ibanez (haven't a clue the model) with an AANJ. Let me tell you, it DOES make a difference. I'm not much for playing high frets, but even just hovering around the 17th fret, the 'placebo' effect kicks in, because when you DO go up into the absolute upper reaches, you KNOW that you're going to get the clearance that you so yearn for in other guitars, so you don't have to worry so much about adjusting your grip in "preparation" for playing those upper registers. All well and good, and there's something to be said even for pure mental confidence. But then when you actually DO get up there, it's awesome. It's not a gimmick, it works and it feels great. In summary: researching before spouting has once again proven valuable. AANJ IS awesome, it's not just for show. I'm a believer. Greg Quote
iskim86 Posted May 13, 2005 Report Posted May 13, 2005 (edited) So, Just looking at plans and actual guitars that feature the Ibanez AANJ, I kept thinking to myself, "Bah, placebo effect. If you look at it, it's rounded off but really only gives you a centimetre more of non-heel. Whoop-dee-doo." I even wanted to post a few times on here asking (but actually insinuating, since I had made my mind up) what was so special about the AANJ and if at the end of the day it really mattered, or if people just liked it because it "seemed" to be a more elegant heel. Now, I shouldn't say that I had a "lesson learned" from this, because as you've noted, I did NOT in fact post such threads. The lesson was actually learned a long time ago not to just spout off without researching first. Unfortunately from time to time, research is theoretical and I still end up in debates, but that's the nature of being a talkative and curious kind of guy. This time, I KNEW that the answer to my question could be found at the music store next time I was in and remembering to check. As luck would have it, I remembered last time I was at Long and McQuade's, and I quickly hunted down an Ibanez (haven't a clue the model) with an AANJ. Let me tell you, it DOES make a difference. I'm not much for playing high frets, but even just hovering around the 17th fret, the 'placebo' effect kicks in, because when you DO go up into the absolute upper reaches, you KNOW that you're going to get the clearance that you so yearn for in other guitars, so you don't have to worry so much about adjusting your grip in "preparation" for playing those upper registers. All well and good, and there's something to be said even for pure mental confidence. But then when you actually DO get up there, it's awesome. It's not a gimmick, it works and it feels great. In summary: researching before spouting has once again proven valuable. AANJ IS awesome, it's not just for show. I'm a believer. Greg ← the main reason i used to prefer neckthrough guitars is because of the almost non-existent neck-joint. but I recently acquired an AANJ RG570. it completely rules. doesn't even feel like a bolt-on guitar. I was amazed. now I have faith in bolt-on guitars! I've only considered buying neckthrough guitars up until my enlightenment... Edited May 13, 2005 by iskim86 Quote
RGGR Posted May 13, 2005 Report Posted May 13, 2005 I've always thought AANJ ruled........till I saw this neck joint....... Quote
Mr.Churchyard Posted May 13, 2005 Report Posted May 13, 2005 (edited) This is a great example of correct behaviour... RGGR, that neck joint is really cool! Where is it from? Edited May 13, 2005 by Mr.Churchyard Quote
Maiden69 Posted May 13, 2005 Report Posted May 13, 2005 I've always thought AANJ ruled........till I saw this neck joint....... ← That looks liek a fender Custom Shop guitar joint, I seen one in a web site but can't find it now! Quote
Jivin Posted May 13, 2005 Report Posted May 13, 2005 One thing that always baffles me with promo photos like this..... why would you put a guitar down on little rocks like that? I know generally lacquer isnt THAT weak, but I mean it still wouldnt take much to leave a lot of tiny little scratches in your freshly buffed perfect finish - Dan PS: Greg, I hate you for posting this You've only made me feel even worse about the chunky heel on the warmoth guitar im assembling lol Quote
ddgman2001 Posted May 13, 2005 Report Posted May 13, 2005 Pardon my ignorance, what does aanj stand for? I've searched and not found a description or photo. Jivin, that looks like low pile grey carpet to me. Quote
mledbetter Posted May 13, 2005 Report Posted May 13, 2005 Pardon my ignorance, what does aanj stand for? I've searched and not found a description or photo. Jivin, that looks like low pile grey carpet to me. ← all access neck joint Quote
marksound Posted May 13, 2005 Report Posted May 13, 2005 AANJ=All Access Neck Joint I found 7 pages referenced by searching AANJ. You'd probably have to read a while to find it in there, but trust me, it's there. Now it's in there again. BTW, while reading through some searches I've found a lot of information I wasn't looking for, but filed away in the back of the brain for future reference. The search feature here is priceless. Quote
!!METAL MATT!! Posted May 13, 2005 Report Posted May 13, 2005 One thing that always baffles me with promo photos like this..... why would you put a guitar down on little rocks like that? HAHAHA I dont think those are rock's, man that's crapet !!METAL MATT!! Quote
Moreau Posted May 13, 2005 Report Posted May 13, 2005 i was just gonna say it was carpet.. damn you matt. Quote
Bigtommyb Posted May 13, 2005 Report Posted May 13, 2005 thats some damn horrible carpet! but love the neck joint on it. looks so easy to play BigT Quote
Maiden69 Posted May 13, 2005 Report Posted May 13, 2005 One thing that always baffles me with promo photos like this..... why would you put a guitar down on little rocks like that? I know generally lacquer isnt THAT weak, but I mean it still wouldnt take much to leave a lot of tiny little scratches in your freshly buffed perfect finish - Dan PS: Greg, I hate you for posting this You've only made me feel even worse about the chunky heel on the warmoth guitar im assembling lol ← Yeap, carpet it is, And this is why when I ordered my Warmoth neck I asked for no neck bolt holes on it. I think that you could ask for no holes on the heel, you are paying for it. Quote
GregP Posted May 13, 2005 Author Report Posted May 13, 2005 What the heck? I know for sure I typed out what AANJ stands for, but I must have accidentally deleted it when revising! I was going to take it as an opportunity to say it so that it wouldn't have to be asked. Wonder what happened? Oops! Of course, there ARE better solutions out there, fa' sheezy. Just saying that in terms of more or less 'standard' bolt-on techniques, this one actually works and feels great. Greg Quote
Jivin Posted May 13, 2005 Report Posted May 13, 2005 Indeed it does appear to be carpet How embarrasing - Dan PS: Oh and Maiden, thats a damn fine suggestion... however I also paid for warmoth to finish the body in clear gloss, and its already been posted to me Quote
Maiden69 Posted May 14, 2005 Report Posted May 14, 2005 however I also paid for warmoth to finish the body in clear gloss, and its already been posted to me ← Yes it is a big problem, I just ordered a neck and got it unfinished. Opens up the possiblilities. Quote
RGGR Posted May 14, 2005 Report Posted May 14, 2005 RGGR, that neck joint is really cool! Where is it from? It's a Shine GG-100 Quote
mullmuzzler Posted May 14, 2005 Report Posted May 14, 2005 As far as the glued in necks go, I have to say that Rhoads56 has excellent approach to subject. I mean, that looks perfect. Also, Myka's singlecuts have beautiful glued in neck joints. These two examples are (to me) cornerstones of modern ergonomical approach to flawless upper frets access. AANJ from Ibanez is very good. Thing is with AANJ that you can reach for higher frets in a standing position that are not quite accessable on square heel style joints. Washburn's Steven's Extended Cutaway is probably the best bolt on design that I've seen. mullmuzzler | OSSMT Quote
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