ryeisnotcool2 Posted August 13, 2003 Report Share Posted August 13, 2003 so i heard that they take every guitar they build and before putting a finish on it they string it up, put it in a room around 50 deg for a few days, then put it in a room around 100 deg for a few days, supposedly to let the wood "do its thing" and then they finish it. it sounds like a great idea! i think im gonna try it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitarfrenzy Posted August 13, 2003 Report Share Posted August 13, 2003 wow nice tip.. should be tip of the week!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGM Guitars Posted August 14, 2003 Report Share Posted August 14, 2003 with all acoustics I build, once the basic body "box" is built and bound, but before finish sanding, I set it aside in natural air for one month. Once it's sprayed, I let it sit another 15 days before polishing to let the wood "do it's thing" I got this tip from Larrivee about acoustics, makes sense with an electric, but I don't know how much time it really would need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krazyderek Posted August 14, 2003 Report Share Posted August 14, 2003 ya, i remember seeing that on the new video tour larrivee did!! he seemed so pastionate about it too!, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunkE Posted August 14, 2003 Report Share Posted August 14, 2003 tom andersson also does high quality pickups....I have a h2+ and it's mighty sweet....100 degrees?? playing guitar in the sauna?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hezochiah Posted August 14, 2003 Report Share Posted August 14, 2003 I could just leave a guitar outside here (Phoenix) for a few days. We just had the hottest month of July here in over 100 years. I think we hit 119 at one point and it hasn't gone down too much yet. It's worth going through all the heat when February rolls around and its 82 and sunny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunkE Posted August 14, 2003 Report Share Posted August 14, 2003 well....tell that to the guy living in Sweden....ME!...and no...we don't have polarbears walking the streets...more like naked blonds actually... but could a sauna actually work?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted August 14, 2003 Report Share Posted August 14, 2003 i really don't think you want that much humidity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveq Posted August 14, 2003 Report Share Posted August 14, 2003 Is the idea to actually force the wood to move? I was always under the impression that would is constantly able to move - meaning if you force it to move one year, that wouldn't mean that it couldn't move the next. I guess what I am wondering is - what is the purpose of doing this? If it is to see what happens, that's fine, but if it is to prevent something from happening, I don't understand how that's possible. Any idea how much value this has, or what it's real purpose is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigsuhr Posted August 14, 2003 Report Share Posted August 14, 2003 Tom doesnt do this The body wood is cured in an oven for a week and then is allowed to sit for a week or so, the necks are precut for 1 month before final fingerboard true, same as we do. To put it in 50 deg and the hot would just be asking the wood to crack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_urr_A Posted August 14, 2003 Report Share Posted August 14, 2003 hezochiah, we're talking degrees C, not F. Tjena PunkE. Då är vi minst två svenskar här. Finns det fler? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted August 14, 2003 Report Share Posted August 14, 2003 i'm sorry isn't 100 degrees celcius hot enough to compromise the glue joints?i see horror photos of acoustics left in hot cars all the time where the glue joints on the neck,bridge,and top bracing failed. 100 degrees celsius=212 degrees farenheit.correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feylya Posted August 14, 2003 Report Share Posted August 14, 2003 Nope other way around. 1C is hotter than 1F so it's 100C = 212F if that's right at all. But Centigrade is hotter than farenheit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted August 14, 2003 Report Share Posted August 14, 2003 yes that is what i wrote.i edited right before you posted. i am just following the formula f=(celsius x 1.8)+32 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_urr_A Posted August 14, 2003 Report Share Posted August 14, 2003 It does seem a little hot, but putting the guitar in a cold place and then a hot place makes no sense to me. I could be very wrong though.... I guess Rye knows, so please, tell us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted August 15, 2003 Report Share Posted August 15, 2003 what lgm said makes more sense.just leaving it in natural temp. to settle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryeisnotcool2 Posted August 15, 2003 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2003 well im not saying this is a fact, its just what i heard. but think about it like this, i dont know were tom A is located but say ha is in california, his rooms are all kept at 80 deg f. with the proper humidtity. then he has an order for a guitar in PA. and the guitar will be shipped during the winter were its 20 deg.f. thats a big tempature change and if tom does this process then it would in my opinion protect the guitar. and the same goes for a guitar going to arizona or something! unless you never gig or take your guitar out of its house then you dont need to worry but i have mine on the road every week and it gets pretty ugly sometimes! maybe someone can contact tom and find out if this is a accual process he does. im just the messenger so dont shoot me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveq Posted August 15, 2003 Report Share Posted August 15, 2003 That's the part I'm a little concerned about. How would it protect the guitar? I could be wrong but I thought that wood will continue to move/warp even if it has already moved/warped once in it's lifetime? Does wood only have one warp in it and it's done? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted August 15, 2003 Report Share Posted August 15, 2003 as i understand it once the wood is properly dried then it has stabilized,but then you have to put a finish on it to keep moisture out as the humidity of the air can do bad things too.excess heat can cause glue joints to fail and warp thinner pieces of wood(like acoustic tops),but moisture is what really does damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigsuhr Posted August 17, 2003 Report Share Posted August 17, 2003 well im not saying this is a fact, its just what i heard. but think about it like this, i dont know were tom A is located but say ha is in california, his rooms are all kept at 80 deg f. with the proper humidtity. then he has an order for a guitar in PA. and the guitar will be shipped during the winter were its 20 deg.f. thats a big tempature change and if tom does this process then it would in my opinion protect the guitar. and the same goes for a guitar going to arizona or something! unless you never gig or take your guitar out of its house then you dont need to worry but i have mine on the road every week and it gets pretty ugly sometimes! maybe someone can contact tom and find out if this is a accual process he does. im just the messenger so dont shoot me! Like I said, Tom doesnt do this! He just drys his wood like we all do (before it is painted) After the neck is rough cut it sits for a month to do what it is going to do before leveling the fingerboard. After the guitar is built it sits in the case over the weekend and the truss rod is readjusted before shipped the following week. Best to build using wood that is 5% with a good moisture meter Never let it dry out too quickly or you'll crack the wood. John Suhr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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