Drak Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 First shot. Most Camphor Burl you buy (that I buy anyway) is freshcut and green, and needs to cure out for a few years. I had it resawn several years ago, and it cupped and warped quite badly over the past few years, so I had to flatten it out for starters. I SOAK it with water, then clamp it for a few days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avengers63 Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 I think that since you've come back, you've started 5 or 6 guitars. Now, I totally get the giddy excitement of having an idea and starting a new project, but are you going to return to work on any of them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RestorationAD Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 First shot. Most Camphor Burl you buy (that I buy anyway) is freshcut and green, and needs to cure out for a few years. I had it resawn several years ago, and it cupped and warped quite badly over the past few years, so I had to flatten it out for starters. I SOAK it with water, then clamp it for a few days. SO would it be better to leave some air space? maybe using some 1x2 runners instead of a solid board. Just asking I am going to be facing a similar situation with some of my tops shortly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodenspoke Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Maybe we should place bets on how flat it will get Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drak Posted June 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 SO would it be better to leave some air space? maybe using some 1x2 runners instead of a solid board. Just asking I am going to be facing a similar situation with some of my tops shortly. You can do as you see fit, there's always more than one way to skin the cat, but this way works fine for me, that's why I posted it. The top is already flat, booked, & glued up, just haven't gotten to getting you caught up with me yet. Maybe we should place bets on how flat it will get Do you think I would post something that doesn't or didn't work (see above)? The reason I'm posting it is to show you how to do it knucklehead. I think that since you've come back, you've started 5 or 6 guitars. Now, I totally get the giddy excitement of having an idea and starting a new project, but are you going to return to work on any of them? My average for a guitar is about 1 year, and I'm comfortable with that, I'm in no rush to finish anything, and I have a time period pattern down that works with the seasons, with my time schedule, and with my relaxation level. Funny you mention the word giddy exitement, because it's really exactly the opposite, it's a completely relaxed approach with no time schedule, and no expectations, just enjoyment of the process itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drak Posted June 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 OK, the booked halves were flattened and dried, edges joined flat and in Pic 1, they're being glued together. Pic 2 is the rough cut lammed top ready to be glued to the body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WezV Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 i love that top! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drak Posted June 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 ...And the Spanish Cedar body blank... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avengers63 Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 I'm in awe at the wood. The eyes flow in a circle around the main bout, then up into the horns. The surrounding grain flows in a circle around the perimeter of the body, framing it all. At the top, there's even a V directing your eye to the horns. Gawd dang but that's a beautiful composition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drak Posted June 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Thanks for the nice words Wez! Actually John, let me explain in more detail... They're all getting pretty close to finishing stage. I let the earlier ones slow down, and get the newer ones caught up to them, so they all go into finishing at about the same time, and those will be the 'batch' for the year. I actually was getting ready to post some updates on 2 of the others, as I just bleached them this weekend in prep for the dying process coming up very soon. Thanks for the nice words! (and your dragon inlay rocks as well ) And actually, I screwed up the book by about 1/4", but oh well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodenspoke Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 The reason I'm posting it is to show you how to do it knucklehead. But you forgot the picture right after it came out of the press, Drak Ole buddy Ole pal, LOL Hey as long as you can glue it together and to the body dosnt matter if it has a bit of wiggle, right. Looking good, what color will it be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RestorationAD Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 My average for a guitar is about 1 year, and I'm comfortable with that, I'm in no rush to finish anything, and I have a time period pattern down that works with the seasons, with my time schedule, and with my relaxation level. Don't like to glue up in the winter cause I have to move the pieces from the sop to the house and that causes bad things.... I don't like to finish guitars in the winter because they take forever to dry and do funny things. So I am trying to finish the 5 guitars I am working on in the summer when the paint and oil dry faster.... What is your season for finishing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drak Posted June 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 But you forgot the picture right after it came out of the press, Drak Ole buddy Ole pal, LOL peace.gif True Dat. What is your season for finishing? Usually late summer into the Fall. OK, for those chambering champs out there, I usually seal the interior of the chambered body before glue-up. I don't always do it, but with any wood that is soft and/or unstable, I do. Or if I've chambered deeply so the rear is 3/16" or less, I do it. I didn't do it on the Maple bodies, but I did it here and I did another body (Cherry) since I had everything out and ready to go for the Spanish Cedar. I usually use Titebond thinned considerably for the task. Real thin. It's to do no more than just stop up the pores, that's it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drak Posted June 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 ...And the body chambered and sealed right before gluing the top up. I added a little cutout on the bottom of the control side in case I needed the 'swing' room for a right-angled 3-way toggler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narcissism Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 I see a clown's face in the burrl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodenspoke Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 I see a clown's face in the Burl A Clown???? HUH I dont see it, hows about a pig, LOL I may have failed a Rorschach test so........... I usually use Titebond thinned considerably for the task Interesting sealing with Titebond, I would have generally headed for the shellac can due to all the moisture in a thinned titebond. As long as it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verhoevenc Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 If I recall correctly, tite-bond breaks down with direct air exposure... that's why when doing cloth side tapes on an acoustic you have to then seal them with shellac so the glue doesn't break down rendering the tapes useless. You may not really be sealing it so much? Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drak Posted June 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Chris, I have used several things to seal the interior, from a quick shellac washcoat brushed on (from the Benedetto videos) to a quick shot of lacquer sprayed on to thinned Titebond. I got the idea for the Titebond sealer from doing veneer work, but I never knew about it breaking down like you described. I knew all I was trying to do was to seal both sides equally to prevent uneven moisture absorption and possible warping as a result, but I will forego the use of thinned Titebond from now on and use shellac instead. You may be correct, but I would imagine it probably takes a long time for Titebond to actually break down and disintegrate to the point where the pores are once again open, but I won't use it again, it's easy enough to use something else. Thanks! Woodenspoke, I can (and do) appreciate the humor, but please do not screw up my topic with that kind of nonsense. I actually would appreciate it if you removed the pic, the post itself I have no problem with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drak Posted June 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Updates... 1. Glueup 2. Clamps Off 3. Wetted Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodenspoke Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 The optical delusion makes it look arched from the side view, unusual! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drak Posted June 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Thanks Wood! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juze Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 The optical delusion makes it look arched from the side view, unusual! I think, it looks like a pregnant lady's tummy. Round like a ball -Juze aka Ghroath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avengers63 Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 The optical delusion makes it look arched from the side view, unusual! I think, it looks like a pregnant lady's tummy. Round like a ball But with dimples instead of stretch marks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Buttman Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Nice shape and very nice top wood. But yes, it looks like pregnant woman on that photo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narcissism Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 I see a clown's face in the Burl A Clown???? HUH I dont see it, hows about a pig, LOL I may have failed a Rorschach test so........... Look below the pig nose. There's the smile! Its a friendly clown! Plus if you use your imagination, its giving jazz hands Its hat is above the eyes, and it goes off in two directions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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