avengers63 Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 What I will do is dress the other edges sharply and rejoin, and show that if someone has a router, a piece of MDF and a hand plane they have a jointer. So, fingers crossed, I will soon show you a razor sharp join, talk later. You ought to look into making yourself a shooting board. I'm sure it's the same principle as what you're already doing, but a LOT more precise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 Hmm..I guess it's true you learn something new every day.I never really considered hand tools as good as power tools,but after my recent huge issues with my jointer this shooting board setup looks very nice.I just researched it a bit and bought a good plane to use with one..so I guess later today I will be making a shooting board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted March 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 What I will do is dress the other edges sharply and rejoin, and show that if someone has a router, a piece of MDF and a hand plane they have a jointer. So, fingers crossed, I will soon show you a razor sharp join, talk later. You ought to look into making yourself a shooting board. I'm sure it's the same principle as what you're already doing, but a LOT more precise. That looks cool, I have seen a few variations on that theme, but nothing could be more precise than the joint I got today, pics tomorrow. Just got back from a fun gig with my band, quite a few drunk girls on the dance floor kissing each other. Why does that go great with rock music, I don't know, it just does Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted March 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 Hmm..I guess it's true you learn something new every day.I never really considered hand tools as good as power tools,but after my recent huge issues with my jointer this shooting board setup looks very nice.I just researched it a bit and bought a good plane to use with one..so I guess later today I will be making a shooting board. More and more I am appreciating hand tools, for all sorts of reasons, for one they are just so relaxing to use. I will never forget seeing a dude in hospital who dropped his power plane on his leg, he took off a huge chunk of his outer calf muscle. Good score on the hand plane. I have a nice Stanley plane that my dad gave to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazygtr Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 "Just got back from a fun gig with my band, quite a few drunk girls on the dance floor kissing each other. Why does that go great with rock music, I don't know, it just does" PICS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted March 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 "Just got back from a fun gig with my band, quite a few drunk girls on the dance floor kissing each other. Why does that go great with rock music, I don't know, it just does" PICS? Someone told me that they have photos like that on the internet, after I do this post I will investigate and report back When I wasn't falling over yesterday morning I went into Cotton On, more shops should decorate the walls with old guitars I lined up the edge of an MDF sheet along the edge of the Queensland Maple and ran along it with a pattern following bit, going nice and slow, I didn't want the slightest tear out. Second pass, lower Then for that last little ledge, I flipped the wood over and used a bit with the cutters over the wheel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted March 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 Then I neatened up the edges with my hand plane I make the blade really sharp and set it high so it is just scraping the wood. I set the edges on a shelf from Ikea to check straightness and checked that I could not get a piece of paper under the edge at any places. Here are the edges placed together, no clamps, no glue Then it was back in the clamps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted March 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Out of the vices Close up of the join, So this guitar construction is all about taking different choices than the last one. Last time around Our Souls inc suggested an AANJ which I had to look up to see what it was. After thinking about it I decided that for that guitar the AANJ wasn't what I wanted because I wanted some elements of a retro look on that one. But for this guitar I am taking OSi's advice, it will be perfect. I like the AANJ on my white guitar I drew the curves on to my template with my blue curve, anyone else use these? They are the best thing for designing guitar shapes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattia Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 I quite enjoy jointing by hand, but I'm glad I've finally purchased a jointer. I'll still use one of my hand planes and a shooting board for the thinner stuff or figured stuff the jointer may not like (i.e. acoustic plates and potentially electric guitar tops), but I do like me some power tools from time to time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted March 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 I quite enjoy jointing by hand, but I'm glad I've finally purchased a jointer. I'll still use one of my hand planes and a shooting board for the thinner stuff or figured stuff the jointer may not like (i.e. acoustic plates and potentially electric guitar tops), but I do like me some power tools from time to time... It must be lovely to have the choice I get serious workshop envy when I see some of the work spaces in the posts around here. Plenty of room in the blank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted March 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 "Just got back from a fun gig with my band, quite a few drunk girls on the dance floor kissing each other. Why does that go great with rock music, I don't know, it just does" PICS? These just in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted March 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 and from the night before Happy Days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted March 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 And back to guitar timber, this is the old joint I went to mark up the finger board on the weekend, but the 60 cm ruler I had to use was slightly out by about 1/2 a mm over the 60 mm. Just can't bring myself to use it even though I know it will make practically no difference. Back to the hardware store soon to get an accurate ruler. Next step, square up the fretboard wood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazygtr Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 Compelling thread... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted March 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 This evening I squared up two sides of the rosewood fingerboard. I like the streaky grain inn this piece. I put double sided tape on some MDF and lined up the board to overlap by the width of a steel ruler. Than I ran the router with a pattern following bit with lower wheel, around the left and bottom sides as it is sitting in the photo This got a nice straight edge, for the right angle ruler to sit up against for when I mark up the fret positions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verhoevenc Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 Ah... the things I would do if let loose in an Aussie timberyard... Chris PS: Hopin' to see Angels and Airwaves in May when they're in the area for the DC101 Chili Cookoff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonx Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 I don't bother to square either side of the board blank as I know I'm just cutting them off so it's just wasted effort (in the way I build) I square off the nut end according to where I want the grain to end out and cut the frets square to that. Then when I go to cut the edges they are marked from that nur end and also a center line I draw from that point before fret slotting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted March 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 Ah... the things I would do if let loose in an Aussie timberyard... Chris PS: Hopin' to see Angels and Airwaves in May when they're in the area for the DC101 Chili Cookoff! You will love the Angels and Airwaves show, the drummer even gets a go on the piano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted March 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 I don't bother to square either side of the board blank as I know I'm just cutting them off so it's just wasted effort (in the way I build) I square off the nut end according to where I want the grain to end out and cut the frets square to that. Then when I go to cut the edges they are marked from that nur end and also a center line I draw from that point before fret slotting Picked up my new ruler yesterday to do the fretboard mark out on theweekend, this is new territory for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nowa90 Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 whoa, 1/4 mm? I have half mm on the first 3cm's on my ruler, and goddamn thats already confusing enough with a bare eye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted March 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2012 I know, I have to use a magnifying glass. Cutting the nut slot, the nut is 16 mm back from the edge of the fretboard, the router bit is 59 mm from the edge of the router, so I set my level as a guide 75 mm back from the edge of the fretboard. Squared it up and ran the router along the level straight edge. I put scraps of MDF on either side of the fretboard and leveled them to the wood with bits of paper. This means the router dousn't wobble as it passes the edge of the wood. that's not bad, it will need widened up a bit to get the nut in. Checking, it's square, yep, close enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verhoevenc Posted March 31, 2012 Report Share Posted March 31, 2012 Dude... that'd destroy me! If you're willing to pay for the shipping to ya, I'd gladly slot a handful of boards for you for free (labor wise) so you have a stock to work with for future builds. Just have them sent here, or I could sell you some boards out of my stash. But that hurts to watch! But it is also skillz Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted March 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2012 Dude... that'd destroy me! If you're willing to pay for the shipping to ya, I'd gladly slot a handful of boards for you for free (labor wise) so you have a stock to work with for future builds. Just have them sent here, or I could sell you some boards out of my stash. But that hurts to watch! But it is also skillz Chris Wow that is so cool of you, I won't take you up on your offer this time, but I do appreciate it. For me the slow and hand made techniques are what it is all about, and so I hope it hurts to watch in a good way A few years ago I read Jon Fisher's "How to build a Les Paul the Hard Way" http://members.fortunecity.com/jtfish/lpc/cvr/cover.htm and I thought it was fantastic, it had a great influence on me. It triggered me to take up this amazing hobby. I wonder if anyone who is thinking about making their first guitar is reading this thread? Next step for today is scoring out the fret positions on the board, and that is going to be old school as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Our Souls inc. Posted April 1, 2012 Report Share Posted April 1, 2012 I too love the handmade stuff. I slot my frets by hand and eye, no miter box involved. Double n triple check ur measurements on the upper frets. intonation becomes critical when the spaces are so small. P.s., I love how you can make a 5 page thread and still not have the body cut or the board slotted. That . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.