I think I'll make a green one.

[ScottR]

14 hours ago, avengers63 said:

With a tenon that long you might just as well made a neck-through

 

Yeah.....it's a warm fuzzy mojo thing. the perfectly sound, tried and true method of gluing wings to the side of a through neck blank doesn't make me as warm and fuzzy as totally encapsulating the long tenon inside the body. And I do so like to have fancy as hell tops all carved up into organic shapes. I am reluctant to give up that real estate to a neck blank, even if it's crazy multi-layered. I have considered going @Andyjr1515's route and totally encapsulating the neck blank between the top and body but extending it all the way out to the bottom edge. It would involve buying longer neck wood stock, and I'm not sold on how I'd like that look compared to the edges I have now. Not that you can see the wood on most of mine, since the front and back burst meet at the edge and don' allow much wood to show through.

I just like that mojo I get from the extra long tenon construction. Mojo:, can't see it, taste it, or touch it, but it makes me feel better building this way so it must exist.

SR

[ADFinlayson]

I'm crap at gluing on neck-through wings, I always end up with a hair line gap somewhere on the body. This method is just snazzy 

[ScottR]

3 hours ago, ADFinlayson said:

I'm crap at gluing on neck-through wings, I always end up with a hair line gap somewhere on the body. This method is just snazzy 

Snazzy is a great word! I haven't seen or used it in ages. Thanks.

SR

[woodfab]

That's a-lot of cutting, Looking Good!

[avengers63]

"Because I like it that way" is all the justification we need. Rawk on!

[ScottR]

16 hours ago, woodfab said:

That's a-lot of cutting, Looking Good!

Why thank you sir !

SR

[ScottR]

15 hours ago, avengers63 said:

"Because I like it that way" is all the justification we need. Rawk on!

That's really true, isn't it?

It's kind of the root of why we all do this.

Thanks John.

SR

[ScottR]

Glued up, out of "traction", and the edges have been sanded flush. Next I can locate the bridge and rout control cavities.

You may notice an extra hole or beauty mark near the string holes. One of my bigger fears came true whilst finishing the string holes from the back side. First the bridge was located and screw holes drilled. Then the bridge body was mounted and the string holes were used as a drilling guide. It got flipped over and using the pin guide technique to locate the outside two string holes. My fear has always been getting the pin in a screw hole instead of a string hole. There is not a lot of visibility under the guitar while trying to line up a string hole, and sure enough I finally caught a screw hole.. I drill the outside two string holes and then mount the bridge to the back buy using the same sized drill bits as pins in the outside two holes and again using the string holes in the bridge as the guide on the back as well. This time one of the outside string holes lined up to a screw hole in the bridge instead. I'll fix it once the surface of the back has been carved down to its final level.

I had an offcut of EI rosewood from the neck that just fit as a cavity cover.

But I didn't like the grain direction compared to the black limba. So I took another neck offcut that had been laminated, and bookmatched too, and sliced it in half with my handy dandy new bandsaw, and glued up yet another bookmatch. This gave me a piece big enough to orient any way I wanted and copied the grain pattern of the neck.

SR

[avengers63]

HOLY CRAP! Scotty finally proved himself to be human afterall. Welcome to being me, buddy!

On a serious note, have you considered making a plug?

[ScottR]

3 hours ago, avengers63 said:

HOLY CRAP! Scotty finally proved himself to be human afterall. Welcome to being me, buddy!

On a serious note, have you considered making a plug?

Oh, that made me laugh out loud! Over the years, I think I've become much better at hiding mistakes than building guitars.

I did consider a plug but  for that small of a hole, with that grain orientation, it would crumble like a cigarette ash unless I made a larger plug. And making a small booboo into a large one just feels wrong. What I'll do, is  find a similar piece with regards to grain and markings and cut a scoop with a palm gouge. I'll take a scoop out of the area surrounding and including the hole, (previously filled with sawdust), add a dab of titebond and press the replace scoop into place. Since the surface of the scoop is larger than the underlying body, it tends to hide the glue lines better than a plug.

As far as welcome to being you old buddy, a few observations come to mind. One, based on your avatar, we look a lot alike. And I've just heard recordings of your voice and we sound a good deal alike. You live east of the large city on the east side of MO, and I grew up east of the large city on the west side of MO. My son grew up in St. Luis.

But I've never driven a big rig.

Cheers!

ScottR

[Bizman62]

9 hours ago, ScottR said:

But I didn't like the grain direction compared to the black limba

Yep, it sure looked a bit off and as both woods have such clearly visible directional lines the misorientation would have been more than a beauty mark.

4 hours ago, ScottR said:

find a similar piece with regards to grain and markings and cut a scoop

I'm eagerly waiting for that to happen to see what exactly you mean. So far my imagination shows a boat shaped piece been cut off along the grain lines but any happy surprise is welcomed!

[ScottR]

9 hours ago, Bizman62 said:

I'm eagerly waiting for that to happen to see what exactly you mean. So far my imagination shows a boat shaped piece been cut off along the grain lines but any happy surprise is welcomed!

Imagine opening a carton of ice cream with chocolate caramel swirls. And you spoon out the first scoop and put it in your dish. and then scoop out a second spoon full the same size and drop it in the spot the first scoop came from. That's similar to what I plan to do - after I've carved it to shape and rough sanded it.

In the mean time, get rid of the stupid spoon, grab a real ice cream scoop and fill that dish up.

You know what to do with that dish of ice cream.

SR

 

[Bizman62]

 

3 minutes ago, ScottR said:

You know what to do with that dish of ice cream.

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The first few sentences I could understand but the rest is Greek to me!

[ScottR]

1 hour ago, Bizman62 said:

 

The first few sentences I could understand but the rest is Greek to me!

Me too. I was hoping you could read it. That showed up instead of an emoticon. I've stuff like show up on my monitor that others could not see, and it would eventually disappear. I went back and edited it to make it disappear.

SR

[Bizman62]

7 minutes ago, ScottR said:

Me too. I was hoping you could read it.

Hey, I'm a Finn, not a Greek!

[ScottR]

On 11/6/2023 at 10:41 AM, Bizman62 said:

Hey, I'm a Finn, not a Greek!

Oh! You said Greek.

I happen to know for a fact you know a ton more about computers and code than I do. And that was the admittedly lame motivation for that weak joke I attempted.

(I was going to use another emoticon, but that was where the mess began....)

SR

[avengers63]

21 hours ago, ScottR said:

And I've just heard recordings of your voice and we sound a good deal alike.

 

That's actually a relief. Based on the lack of responses, I was really wondering if anyone was listening to the sound samples.

[Bizman62]

19 hours ago, ScottR said:

Oh! You said Greek.

Grrrrr... See the RRRRR's?

We just had a LAN party last weekend. Not much computing though as the connection was too unstable for gaming. So instead of geeking we nurtured our stomachs.

[Andyjr1515]

On 11/6/2023 at 2:28 AM, ScottR said:

I think I've become much better at hiding mistakes than building guitars.

I think that applies to many of us 

[ScottR]

10 hours ago, Andyjr1515 said:

I think that applies to many of us 

It's a badge of honor.

SR

[ScottR]

19 hours ago, avengers63 said:

 

That's actually a relief. Based on the lack of responses, I was really wondering if anyone was listening to the sound samples.

i think everything posted gets seen, quite a lot actually. but we do seem to be a watch and learn (and show off) group than we were when you and I started. Back then debate and opinion sharing were the order of the day. Not that the opinions were really shared....they were put out there and debated, but everyone stood behind their own.

Now I guess everyone does that on social media , and then comes here to actually share something we all enjoy.

SR

[ADFinlayson]

Looking good Scott. Black limba is often full of wormholes anyway so I would deny all knowledge and move on 

[ScottR]

3 hours ago, ADFinlayson said:

Looking good Scott. Black limba is often full of wormholes anyway so I would deny all knowledge and move on 

Haha good point!

Might have to drill a few more to make it believable.

SR

[ScottR]

Still no Klein pickups. I ordered on July 4 of this year. My credit card was dinged on July 4 of this year and I got an order acknowledgement on July 4. My account says not shipped yet. I've emailed twice via the contact us tab on the website and gotten no response. There is a notice that says if you contact them too much the system will automatically tag you as spam. There is no phone number listed. The policy says every order will be built, and there are no cancellations. Payment is due at the time of order placement. The only recourse appears to be a return authorization if requested with 14 days of delivery. Assuming they answer the email.....or maybe the paperwork includes that information, I don't remember. I have used maybe a dozen sets of these pickups and absolutely love them. I'm wondering if covid killed the business and the website is well enough constructed to do everything it has so far automatically.

In the meantime, I ordered as close to the same thing as possible from Lollar, who also are very well spoken of. They don't go to the same lengths to recreate vintage pups with vintage materials.....but I'm tired of waiting. And looking forward to hearing these. Also, I ordered these online on Saturday, received a these have shipped email Tuesday, and they were in my mailbox Wednesday. I selected standard shipping and they came from halfway across the country.....actually all the way across the country from the north and south point of view.

Added magnets to the control cavity and cover.

And since I have pickups, I did my pickup routes.

This gets me to the fun stuff.

Carving!

Let the rabid beavers feast!

SR

[Bizman62]

9 hours ago, ScottR said:

I've emailed twice via the contact us tab on the website and gotten no response.

Have you checked your spam folder? That has often happened to me since Thunderbird doesn't synchronize the Spam folder. I've since learned to check them via browser every now and then especially if I'm waiting for an answer from a new contact. Not to mention the case when my ISP enabled filtering and started to send the messages from my website to trash and delete them after two weeks. Don't know how many customers I lost before finding that out! Also note that the filtering rules may change without notice.