t1r12003 Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 (edited) Guys, I need some help. I really don't like the way this turned out. I had an idea for a kind of twisted SG looking guitar, but I don't like the end result. Any ideas? The sound is what I wanted with P90 pickups, so that's not the problem, simply aesthetics. It has a spalted maple top with a black walnut back. The top was brushed laquer and the walnut was rubbed with tung oil. images deleted read the picture posting rules, then come back and fix up this post. Edited August 28, 2005 by rhoads56 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGGR Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 Guys, I need some help. Yeah, you do....... But where were you when you designed this....when you were working on it.......debating choices...... Now it's all set and done.....and it looks all crappy. What you want us to do?? Did you do it all yourself??? And what's up with the tuners. Why SG type body with Strat type neck........ Aiiiiihhhhhh!!! To me this is great waste of the spalted maple.................. Just my $0.02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marzocchi705 Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 Give it to Drak, the WOD must be hungry by now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TenderSurrender Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 Give it to Drak, the WOD must be hungry by now... ← At first i wasnt going to join in since the person clearly worked hard on it... but the more i look at it, the more i feel perhaps it should be fed to the WOD and a new project be started ~~ Slain Angel ~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marzocchi705 Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 The finish looks good, but the body style is horrid. I know, look up Idch bocaster thread and do that to it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TenderSurrender Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 The finish looks good, but the body style is horrid. I know, look up Idch bocaster thread and do that to it! ← The finish is wel executed, i personally dont like it but im NOT denyin the skills that went into it... Id personally keep that one, stick it down to experience and start a whole new project ~~ Slain Angel ~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!!METAL MATT!! Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 Im with SlainAngel on this one START OVER!! !!METAL MATT!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 i don't know what to tell you...i am ashamed of my first project as well... i think i will burn mine as soon as i figure out how to salvage the neck thru part. i am sorry for your loss...i say put it in an aquarium and let the fish lay eggs on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TenderSurrender Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 i am sorry for your loss...i say put it in an aquarium and let the fish lay eggs on it. The first bit.. "I am sorry for your loss".. then the next bit... hm you ever considered being a doctor Wes? ~~ Slain Angel ~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGGR Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 Procedure you could have followed: 1. Start scetching on paper....finding body shape you like (or modding existing one) 2. Post design on PG.com and wait comments. 3. When happy with results, and itterations......cut shape out of MDF, and with MDF template, use cheap wood blank to see how results are in real life. 4. Happy with results........(others giving cool comments) 5. Go buy more expensive wood make your dream guitar. Now it's just an expensive piece of firewood. Sorry to smash you windows.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southpa Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 Recut the headstock to an arrowhead shape, you just might squeeze a 3/3 tuner configuration in there. If not try using mini-tuners. Looking at the guitar in its current position, an inch of the left side, starting from that little dip just below the horn, could be cut out all the way to the bottom of the lower bout. The "protrusion" on the bottom left should be cut off and then just follow the natural curve of the bout. On the right side try to mirror the smooth curve between bouts seen on the left side. Can't say much about the other "protrusion" on the right side because your controls happen to be there. But the general idea is to render it back into an SG body shape with offset cutaway. Anything can be salvaged. Do you figure it was a guitar that was wrong from the getgo? Just wondering how you managed to actually build it, requiring X amount of intimate hours and then only decide its "wrong" after completion...I know, seemed like a good idea at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haggardguy Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 Save the neck,the tuenrs,the brige and the pickups and build a new body. At least you'll have the parts and alot of experience even if you're out a body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t1r12003 Posted August 28, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 Thanks for all the comments. I was thinking of shaping each curve to a point. Then it would be much more metal looking. Kind of like a BC Rich Warlock. The neck is a Washburn N1 I believe, and I liked the way it felt, so I tried to make it work with this body idea. I really don't want to scrap the body before I try to rework this. Let me know if you think the Warlock idea is a good one. It's hard to believe it from the way this one looks, but I made these other two first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushy the shroom Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 I really like that curly maple jazzish one (although the neck style choice is a little odd). And I would like the walnut (?) one more if the top cutaway was better shaped (maybe extened a little further out and had more body). But yeah, the one in the first post looks pretty sophmoric. I think it could have used smoother edges, and it woulda looked nicer, but the shape could also use some revamping. You could still make a kinda funky V out of it, by slicing the cutaways off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j. pierce Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 If it sounds good but doesn't look great you've now got your studio guitar. Did you use 3 on a side tuners there? Honestly, I think you could change up the right side a little bit to clean up the general outline, and then bevel the edges all the way around would also help a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGGR Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 Funny to see that all your guitars up to now follow similar line.....They're all almost right. It's that "almost" part that is so important to get exactly right. With the spalted maple one I see some strange choices.....(strange is not always a bad thing though.......but in this case I feel it is). The curly maple one seem to be very nicely executed but your choice of neck/headstock is debateble.....(again, you're the builder, so if you like it.....no harm done.) The JS one is same deal.......nice looking guitar, but the upper horn seems touch outta wack......Almost right, but not quite. Posting during built would give you insight in minds and ideas from others on this site. Some great teachers and inspirators are out here........their advice can be very valueble......even if you don't follow it, it still let's you think twice about the choices you're about to make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t1r12003 Posted August 29, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 Thanks for the comments. Yeah, the semi hollow neck really doesn't go with it, but I liked the way the neck felt so much, that I sacrificed with the headstock. The Mohog was my first real attempt, so I did leave a little too much material in that upper horn. I'll try to see what I can do with the spalted maple. Thanks for all the constructive criticism. Best building. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dash Posted August 30, 2005 Report Share Posted August 30, 2005 dude, if it were mine i'd redo the body to something like this cheers darren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegarehanman Posted August 30, 2005 Report Share Posted August 30, 2005 (edited) That [modified] design actually suits the headstock really well. Look at the lower portion of the upper horn. It's got the same curve as the top curve on the headstock. I don't like the design really, but it's better than the original. Good call. Edited August 30, 2005 by thegarehanman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68 lost souls Posted August 30, 2005 Report Share Posted August 30, 2005 I say add a piece to the bottom and turn it into a parker with a reverse head stock. Not a gerat picure but here. http://members.boards.ie/68_lost_souls/parker.JPG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marksound Posted August 30, 2005 Report Share Posted August 30, 2005 That headstock ain't so bad. Kinda Washburnish. Replace the tuners with lefty 6Ls and you're good. If you slim down the horns and make the waist narrower you could keep the twisted SG look too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feylya Posted August 30, 2005 Report Share Posted August 30, 2005 I say add a piece to the bottom and turn it into a parker with a reverse head stock. Not a gerat picure but here. http://members.boards.ie/68_lost_souls/parker.JPG ← Tut tut. Using Boards.ie's webspace on a different forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ByronBlack Posted August 30, 2005 Report Share Posted August 30, 2005 It's not that bad, I would say sort out the headstock to be more fitting and leave it - if it sounds good, then keep it as a bedroom/studio guitar, its really not that bad, chalk it up as experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t1r12003 Posted August 30, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2005 Actually, Marksound, it is a Washburn N1 neck. Good eye. Thanks again for all the feedback. I'm going to take it all in. I'm completing a hollowbody right now, and I just got some lacewood and a killer maple top to start another solid body (I'll start another thread for that one to avoid this problem), so I may take some time getting to the refurb on this thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t1r12003 Posted August 30, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2005 I just decided to dismantle it all, save the parts and call it a lost cause. Chalk it up to experience. I'll probably post the body on the Bay and see if someone will actually pay some cash to try and salvage it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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