Mattia Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 Too much natural maple? Most of the maple guitars I see are stained all over the place, honestly. Natural woods are beautiful, and particularly a piece with the character that has can be left pretty well alone and look absolutely wonderful. This said, it'd look killer with that stain on it as well. Trust your own judgment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marksound Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 Psst ... I think Wes was being ironic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 Psst ... I think Wes was being ironic. ← ironic with the natural maple color thing...but i am serious about coloring that piece.i think the color he chose will look nice,and if all anyone ever does is finish maple naturally,i doubt they would ever learn how to really enhance it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum5545 Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 Hmmm... first of all, great shape, and amazing maple! That said, definitely stain the maple. I like the color you want to stain it, but personally, I think it'd look better if it were a bit more orange than that. Just my $.02. However, knowing your attention to detail with these things, I'm sure whatever you do will be just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSo_Spencer Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 Hmmm... first of all, great shape, and amazing maple! That said, definitely stain the maple. I like the color you want to stain it, but personally, I think it'd look better if it were a bit more orange than that. Just my $.02. ← +2 That is one hell ova-a-top Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitarfrenzy Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 Looking great Godin, keep those pics rolling in.. btw I think the guitar will look better stained than natural also.. but that's just one persons opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren wilson Posted September 18, 2005 Report Share Posted September 18, 2005 Great shape, awesome piece of quilt (i can't remember the last time is saw such a wide quilt pattern!) and the tiger eye stain (one of my personal favourite colours on quilted maple) looks fantastic. Nice work! I can't wait to see more progress! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitarMaestro Posted September 18, 2005 Report Share Posted September 18, 2005 Nice flowing body shape. Not my cup of tee but good anyway. The top is absolutely awesome beyond belief....man am I jealous....dont listen to them....stainnig such a special top would be sacrilegous. I have seen and worked with alot of quilted maple tops and never seen something that special like these orange areas....dont ruin it's natural color!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnsilver Posted September 18, 2005 Report Share Posted September 18, 2005 Godin, I'll weigh in on the side of going with the tiger eye stain you planned. If you decide to go that way, pls describe the products, recipe and method. It'll be a big help to me, and probably others. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted September 18, 2005 Report Share Posted September 18, 2005 Nice flowing body shape. Not my cup of tee but good anyway. The top is absolutely awesome beyond belief....man am I jealous....dont listen to them....stainnig such a special top would be sacrilegous. I have seen and worked with alot of quilted maple tops and never seen something that special like these orange areas....dont ruin it's natural color!!!! ← stainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainit stainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainit stainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainit stainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainit stainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainit stainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainit stainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainit stainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainitstainit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted September 18, 2005 Report Share Posted September 18, 2005 Inits. Yeah, I think you should stain it. It'd look better. >___< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmrentis Posted September 18, 2005 Report Share Posted September 18, 2005 I can't decide what I would like better, the stain looks great and goes well with the wood, but the wood already looks epic, so ???? I wanted to throw this out there, would the stain have any funny effects on the coloration in the maple. The maple already has some colors in it which are cool but would a stain change those areas possibly, like darken or blacken them or would it make no difference? Just wondering if anyone knows. I really like natural too, and would love to see it go that way, just do what you want. Good luck. Jason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitarMaestro Posted September 18, 2005 Report Share Posted September 18, 2005 @wes: I wanted to throw this out there, would the stain have any funny effects on the coloration in the maple. The maple already has some colors in it which are cool but would a stain change those areas possibly, like darken or blacken them or would it make no difference? Usually the stain enhances the figure but evens out the different colors in the wood. Drak's rawhide guitar is a good example of this: Before staining it had different colors, now it's quite uniform in color: different shades of red, but the original colors are not visible anymore. This is not meant as a critique. I dont doubt that godin's guitar will look great after staining, but you can always build another one with a more "common" piece of maple and stain that. Why waste the colors of such a unique piece? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Sorbera Posted September 18, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2005 (edited) After looking at it wetted and looking at the stain I think I will go for natural on this one because the darkend areas (auccually a vein of spalt) don't look very good stained. I'll do another one and stain it... The only thing is i'm worried that mabye I'm not getting everything I can figure wise out of this peice if I don't stain it. Is there some tecnique that makes it look nautrual but brings out the figure? Like this tom anderson has a "nearly natural" finish. Thats what I'm going for. So how would I go about getting that finish? Do I apply amber than sand back? Or apply a -very- diluted solution of amber? PS: More progress pics will be uploaded soon. Edited September 18, 2005 by Godin SD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattia Posted September 18, 2005 Report Share Posted September 18, 2005 After looking at it wetted and looking at the stain I think I will go for natural on this one because the darkend areas (auccually a vein of spalt) don't look very good stained. I'll do another one and stain it... The only thing is i'm worried that mabye I'm not getting everything I can figure wise out of this peice if I don't stain it. Is there some tecnique that makes it look nautrual but brings out the figure? PS: More progress pics will be uploaded soon. ← Oil looks wonderful, and works great for bringing out the depth in the figure, and Shellac comes a close second, IMO. Heard good things about Epoxy as well, although since it's maple, and doesn't need grain filling, that might be messy and silly. Then again, if you want to strengthen it at all (weaker areas in the wood, etc.) it might not be a stupid idea. Acoustic builders like Mike Doolin use a thin layer of epoxy even on woods that don't need pore filling (like spruce tops) to 'pop' the figure prior to applying (fairly dead looking) waterbased finishes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted September 19, 2005 Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 So how would I go about getting that finish? Do I apply amber than sand back? Or apply a -very- diluted solution of amber? i saw a very nice salmon tinted top once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlGeeEater Posted September 19, 2005 Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 Godin, I've heard Drak talking about sanding the bare wood up to 4,000 grit sandpaper to bring out the chatoyance in the wood. Here's the thread. http://projectguitar.ibforums.com/index.ph...5&hl=chatoyance It works too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Sorbera Posted September 19, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 @ Mattia, Could I put down oil than clear over it? @ Wes, Salmon you say? Hmmmm I might have to look into that. I'll try the sanding up really high thing and see how that turns out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitarfrenzy Posted September 19, 2005 Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 Stew Mac's Color Tone Vintage Amber (#5030) is a good choice for what your wanting. You can either dye it, or mix a little bit with some clear (Nitro or whatever you want) and spray it on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Sorbera Posted September 19, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 (edited) Forget I said anything... I am going to go with tiger eye. I finally got it to where I am really impressed with the tiger eye. I'll post a pic of what I came up with as soon as I get my hands on the camera. Edited September 19, 2005 by Godin SD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemleggat Posted September 19, 2005 Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 Show us some more pics will ya Godin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Sorbera Posted September 19, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 (edited) Ye ask and ye shall recieve Heres a quick uppdate. Here is a picture of me just starting to carve the back of the neck. link and here is one of the body sitting on the neck to show you what it might look like. link Today I will finish carving out the back, put in the side dots, drill the tuner holes, and hopefully rout out the neck pocket and glue in the neck. Than tomorrow I'll start on the body routing and by wendsday I hope to be ready to finish. Edited September 19, 2005 by Godin SD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Sorbera Posted September 19, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 The back of the neck has all these dark spots on it that I don't like. So I think I'll either stain the neck a really dark color or do a solid color on it. Any ideas? (I dont think wood bleach would work here) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Sorbera Posted September 19, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 It's all glued up. Tomorow I'll drill the peghead holes and do all the body routing. I'll take a pic when the clamps come off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnsilver Posted September 19, 2005 Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 I am going to go with tiger eye. I finally got it to where I am really impressed with the tiger eye.← Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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