verhoevenc Posted October 18, 2005 Report Posted October 18, 2005 I was just wondering what tools you guys use to cut your scarfed neck joints? Cause I'm sure everyone has a different method, so I was gunna see hwo does what and the pros and cons of them all. Chris Quote
Marzocchi705 Posted October 18, 2005 Report Posted October 18, 2005 I used a band saw. Worked fine, just be prepaired to do alot of sanding to get it perfect. Quote
Southpa Posted October 18, 2005 Report Posted October 18, 2005 I think I used my Skilsaw for the last one. Just gotta follow the little pencil line. Quote
verhoevenc Posted October 18, 2005 Author Report Posted October 18, 2005 Yeah, that's what I was thinking... but there's GOT to be a way to do it in one quick super accurate way.... Quote
thegarehanman Posted October 18, 2005 Report Posted October 18, 2005 I use an angled block against the fence and a radial arm saw Quote
Marzocchi705 Posted October 18, 2005 Report Posted October 18, 2005 Theres a jig out there for a table saw too, is you have acces to a table saw that is. Quote
Devon Headen Posted October 18, 2005 Report Posted October 18, 2005 The only problem with the tablesaw jig is that you're limited to your tablesaw's cutting height. Not a problem if you're gluing on ears, but otherwise you have to finish with a handsaw and clean up the joint with a hand plane. Quote
GregP Posted October 18, 2005 Report Posted October 18, 2005 I agree, Devon. That said, I will probably always choose to glue ears from now on. It was a real pain in my ass making a bandsaw jig and then trying to get the angles flat to one another. It looked "perfect" but it wasn't. So, to answer the question: I used a bandsaw and jig, but henceforth I will use a table saw. Greg Quote
Primal Posted October 18, 2005 Report Posted October 18, 2005 On my bass, I rough cut the joint on a band saw, then clamped both pieces together and sanded each surface flat on a belt sander. Worked perfectly. Quote
verhoevenc Posted October 18, 2005 Author Report Posted October 18, 2005 What would be handy is if they had miter boxes out ther for 13 degree cuts. cause I know you can get like dovetail saw miterboxes that have the usual 90, 45, 30, 60 degree cutting guides... but i'm guessing 13 degrees would be a hard one to find lol Chris Quote
Marzocchi705 Posted October 18, 2005 Report Posted October 18, 2005 On my bass, I rough cut the joint on a band saw, then clamped both pieces together and sanded each surface flat on a belt sander. Worked perfectly. ← exactly what i did. Quote
goth_fiend Posted October 18, 2005 Report Posted October 18, 2005 I used a handsaw today on the neck im building, now i have a LOT of sanding and planing to do! Quote
Mattia Posted October 18, 2005 Report Posted October 18, 2005 Big japanese handsaw for the main cut, following the line closely, clean up with a #4 stanley and a block plane. Best of cases, this takes all of 15-20minutes (which includes thinning the headplate bit of the scarf by saw and plane), a little longer if the cut is seriously messed up. I'm not sure a bandsaw would give me a more accurate starting surface. As for tuning the surfaces, there's always the router jig option: http://www.buildyourguitar.com/resources/tips/scarfjnt.htm Since almost all my necks are mahogany, I quite thoroughly enjoy taking a nice, sharp plane to it, so I've never bothered building one. But if cleanup's giving you serious headaches, it's worth considering. Quote
GuitarGuy Posted October 18, 2005 Report Posted October 18, 2005 What would be handy is if they had miter boxes out ther for 13 degree cuts. cause I know you can get like dovetail saw miterboxes that have the usual 90, 45, 30, 60 degree cutting guides... but i'm guessing 13 degrees would be a hard one to find lol Chris ← Build one.... Quote
goth_fiend Posted October 18, 2005 Report Posted October 18, 2005 thats exactly what im getting ready to do myself, no more screwups on scarfs! Quote
jer7440 Posted October 18, 2005 Report Posted October 18, 2005 I use my table saw, but I tilt the blade to the angle I want. Then I attach a fairly tall auxillary fence to my saws rip fence. I hold by neck blank vertically against the fence and then I clamp a guide board perpendicular to the neck blank, that rides on the top of the auxillary fence. I raise the blade up a little at a time, and make several passes. If my blade isn't tall enough I finish with a hand saw, but for my LP neck the blade worked out to be tall enough. (pretty extreme headstock angle) Quote
rocksolid Posted October 19, 2005 Report Posted October 19, 2005 What would be handy is if they had miter boxes out ther for 13 degree cuts. cause I know you can get like dovetail saw miterboxes that have the usual 90, 45, 30, 60 degree cutting guides... but i'm guessing 13 degrees would be a hard one to find lol Chris ← I built one, works fine. Quote
woodsman1031 Posted December 28, 2005 Report Posted December 28, 2005 What would be handy is if they had miter boxes out ther for 13 degree cuts. cause I know you can get like dovetail saw miterboxes that have the usual 90, 45, 30, 60 degree cutting guides... but i'm guessing 13 degrees would be a hard one to find lol Chris ← I built one, works fine. ← Rocksolid, would you post some pictures or a tutorial on the miter box? Tommy Quote
egdeltar Posted December 28, 2005 Report Posted December 28, 2005 If found the router is the easiest way: http://www.buildyourguitar.com/resources/tips/scarfjnt.htm and a video: http://www.guitarfrenzy.com/ScarfJoint.wmv (got all this info from Guitarfenzy) table saw: http://pweb.jps.net/~kmatsu/htmlpages/scarfjig.html Quote
LGM Guitars Posted December 29, 2005 Report Posted December 29, 2005 I built a jig for my T slide on my bandsaw to cut them, clamp the wood and run it through, same T slide fits on my edge sander table to flatten them before gluing, takes less than 5 minutes to have a scarf joint ready for glue and from the ones I've tested, they never break on the glue join, ask Metal Matt, he saw me step on one, broke the wood, but never touched the scarf joint anywhere Quote
Calum_Barrow Posted January 7, 2006 Report Posted January 7, 2006 If I make one for my 12 string neck I'll cut the joint with a radial arm saw and make a shooting board and just use a plane to get both sides of the joint flat. Quote
~john~ Posted January 12, 2006 Report Posted January 12, 2006 I used to do it with a hand saw, but now i i do it on my bandsaw cause its way quicker. Quote
MzI Posted January 12, 2006 Report Posted January 12, 2006 I made the tablesaw jig, its fairly clean I usually have to do a little sanding but each one gets better so I end up having to do less sanding. It would prolly help if I had the correct blade on the table saw too. MzI Quote
rlrhett Posted January 13, 2006 Report Posted January 13, 2006 If found the router is the easiest way: http://www.buildyourguitar.com/resources/tips/scarfjnt.htm and a video: http://www.guitarfrenzy.com/ScarfJoint.wmv (got all this info from Guitarfenzy) table saw: http://pweb.jps.net/~kmatsu/htmlpages/scarfjig.html ← I have to second the router approach. It worked for me like a dream. Once I made the slaigh, I had no trouble making consistent 13 deg scarf joints. I had only trivial hand planning. It probably could work even without hand planning. It is amazing to me how smooth and consisten a router cut can be. Quote
jammy Posted January 18, 2006 Report Posted January 18, 2006 A bandsaw with a big re-saw blade to do the cutting, then a 24" disc sander to true up the faces. Quote
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