rhoads56 Posted May 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 Splayed Scalloping tm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanthus Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 I dig the splayed scalloping, Perry. Are they the same depth all through, or is the depth varied as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregP Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 Yeah, I'm digging that, too. I've never played a scalloped guitar, but just the appearance of it alone is pretty cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanthus Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 Yeah, I'm digging that, too. I've never played a scalloped guitar, but just the appearance of it alone is pretty cool. You should see what I did to my old GAX70. Or, maybe you shouldn't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhoads56 Posted May 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 Here is a better picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erikbojerik Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 Cool scallop! I look at them and think "bunsen burner"....a little red/orange or orange/blue airbrushing on a maple board, and it would be on FIRE !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooglebug Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 im intrigued - why the scalloping on just that area? is there a practical reason for it? or any advantage to it? im just wondering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhoads56 Posted May 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 Is there a practical reason to scallop all the way across when your fingers arent strong enough to fret a string hard enough on the bass side to warrant having scallops? How thin are your fingers that they can reach in between the frets from 19th onwards, and hit the fretboard? Grain match on the headstock. Pretty obvious to see how i cut it out. Here is the YouTube video Here is the YouTube video Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooglebug Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 Is there a practical reason to scallop all the way across when your fingers arent strong enough to fret a string hard enough on the bass side to warrant having scallops? How thin are your fingers that they can reach in between the frets from 19th onwards, and hit the fretboard? i wasnt having a go i was just wondering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RestorationAD Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 More! More! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhoads56 Posted May 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 Is there a practical reason to scallop all the way across when your fingers arent strong enough to fret a string hard enough on the bass side to warrant having scallops? How thin are your fingers that they can reach in between the frets from 19th onwards, and hit the fretboard? i wasnt having a go i was just wondering And neither was I. People are quick to 'accept' certain ways of doing things, without question. Look at Steve Vai's Ibanez model, the Jem's. Why are they only scallopped on the last three or four frets? The ONLY place on the entire fretboard that scallops ARE USELESS!! Why cut away timber (sustain, tone, stability) when its not needed? I interviewed a bunch of guitarists, and this is why i did it like this. I dont do anything without thinking it through first, and you guys should do the same. Just because someone else (me included?) has done something some way for years, doesnt mean its the best way. Watch everyone else copy it now (its already started... hasnt even been a month yet). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avengers63 Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 Watch everyone else copy it now (its already started... hasnt even been a month yet). That makes you an innovator. Take pride in that. When you see a bunch of partially scalloped necks like you've done here, you can say "I made that happen." Seriously - we're all really standing on the shoulders of giants. In a greater sense, we're all copying from someone else. Now, someone will stand on your shoulders. That's really saying something. Stand tall, Perry, stand tall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim290280 Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 Keep it coming Perry! I've really enjoyed the videos on youtube. Inspiring stuff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erikbojerik Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 im intrigued - why the scalloping on just that area? is there a practical reason for it? or any advantage to it? im just wondering Spoken like a rhythm guitar player <jk> Perry, how do you like those ABM bridges? I don't suppose you have a width measurement on them...??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhoads56 Posted May 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 Watch everyone else copy it now (its already started... hasnt even been a month yet). That makes you an innovator. Take pride in that. When you see a bunch of partially scalloped necks like you've done here, you can say "I made that happen." Seriously - we're all really standing on the shoulders of giants. In a greater sense, we're all copying from someone else. Now, someone will stand on your shoulders. That's really saying something. Stand tall, Perry, stand tall. Thats one way of looking at it. Another is that these clowns are stealing my ideas, from threads just like this, and running to other forums and posting about how great this new idea they have is. Of course, they avoid posting in my threads, like its the black plague, or giving credit where its due. Furthermore, IF they ask me a question about a process i do, a supplier, a technique, etc, and i choose not to answer, all hell breaks loose and they cry about not helping others. Dont worry, Ive already got something coming up for those clowns that will sort them out Funny thing is, i reckon im the most helpful guy out there (in the real world, not online), but, not if im disrespected. Some of these guys think they can tie you up on the phone for an hour or two to pick your brains, then sell your idea to their own "clients". Nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhoads56 Posted May 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 im intrigued - why the scalloping on just that area? is there a practical reason for it? or any advantage to it? im just wondering Spoken like a rhythm guitar player <jk> Perry, how do you like those ABM bridges? I don't suppose you have a width measurement on them...??? From memory, the string spacing at the bridge would go as narrow as 49mm. This guitar was 54 or 55mm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avengers63 Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 ...these clowns are stealing my ideas, from threads just like this, and running to other forums and posting about how great this new idea they have is... avoiding... giving credit where its due. Some of these guys think they can... sell your idea to their own "clients". Nice! I certainly can't argue with that. I totally get it from both a business and principle perspective. In that light, you certainly have every right to be torked about it. Is there anything you can do to copyright the process or protect your intellectual property? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhoads56 Posted May 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 ...these clowns are stealing my ideas, from threads just like this, and running to other forums and posting about how great this new idea they have is... avoiding... giving credit where its due. Some of these guys think they can... sell your idea to their own "clients". Nice! I certainly can't argue with that. I totally get it from both a business and principle perspective. In that light, you certainly have every right to be torked about it. Is there anything you can do to copyright the process or protect your intellectual property? Copyright and trademarks are either in force, or pending. Id rather not say any more on the subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammy Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 I went through and watched all the videos of this build not too long ago. Some seriously tight work, resulting in a beautiful instrument! Love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avengers63 Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 Copyright and trademarks are either in force, or pending. Id rather not say any more on the subject. Understood. And the ax looks great too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhoads56 Posted May 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 I went through and watched all the videos of this build not too long ago. Some seriously tight work, resulting in a beautiful instrument! Love it. Thank you sir. Bit hard to see, but this top is carved Here is the YouTube video Here is the YouTube video Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooglebug Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 Is there a practical reason to scallop all the way across when your fingers arent strong enough to fret a string hard enough on the bass side to warrant having scallops? How thin are your fingers that they can reach in between the frets from 19th onwards, and hit the fretboard? i wasnt having a go i was just wondering And neither was I. People are quick to 'accept' certain ways of doing things, without question. Look at Steve Vai's Ibanez model, the Jem's. Why are they only scallopped on the last three or four frets? The ONLY place on the entire fretboard that scallops ARE USELESS!! Why cut away timber (sustain, tone, stability) when its not needed? I interviewed a bunch of guitarists, and this is why i did it like this. I dont do anything without thinking it through first, and you guys should do the same. Just because someone else (me included?) has done something some way for years, doesnt mean its the best way. Watch everyone else copy it now (its already started... hasnt even been a month yet). thats why i was questioning hehe. i've never played a scalloped guitar before and dont really understand it hence the questions. and now i know! i watched all the vids when someone prematurely posted a thread about it. was a good watch. this isnt really my cup of tea style wise but theres still bits i really like, and of course i can appreciate the quality of it. which is good. i'd say keep up the good work, but then why would you suddenly start doing crap hehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregP Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 There have been guitars that haven't been scalloped treble to bass side, but not a one of them has done it as beautifully as here. Actually, the main example I'm thinking of isn't even a guitar, but is rather a bass-- the old Yamaha Billy Sheehan model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prostheta Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 (edited) I suppose that I have to say - dampen down guys - yes, great instrument but hell - can we be a bit more objective here? It's awesome - no doubt. Get off your knees guys! Perry - no disrespect, but you make guitars along solid designs. This is proof of such. Watch the videos on YT and get a grasp of how easy it really is, learners. Oh hell. This is a rant, no disrespect to you Perry. It something special you cam jump on your workmate and rasp/ss out your neck, so good on you fella. <edit: i drank helloads of "perry" tongitht so sorry baut paoeeling> Edited May 24, 2008 by Prostheta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WezV Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 is good that prostheta is drunk.... so am i!!!! friday night and all that i really like perrys work... the overall product may not always (but somtimes does) come over as groundbreakingly unique but i am always impressed by the craftsmanship. I really like the scallops on this build but i am still not 100% sure on the reason for them.... i do regularly play a multiscale as one of the guitas i am keeping for myself... and for me personally that scalloping would work well - but i dont think it would suit everyone... at the end of the day - it really doesnt have to!!!! i have been designing my next multiscale for a while and had problems with the end of the fretboard... i cant deny that seeing perrys work completed has confirmed that an idea i had would work well This is my rough design i like it but its clear the end of the fretboard needs work - perrys solution would work well for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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