ScottR Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 Love the fretboard; body is spooky though. I seem to remember a post from the past where you mentioned a friend that shared your unique sense of humor. I'm guessing that is who this is for. Should be entertaining to see the "mystery" cleared up later on. SR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Foreigner Posted July 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 Love the fretboard; body is spooky though. I seem to remember a post from the past where you mentioned a friend that shared your unique sense of humor. I'm guessing that is who this is for. Should be entertaining to see the "mystery" cleared up later on. SR yup, this is his 30th birthday present. if i get it finished in time for his visit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblaty Posted July 24, 2010 Report Share Posted July 24, 2010 as far as I know - I don't remember having seen it elsewhere. Tho there's never anything new in guitar design, right? I think I saw it here on PG somewhere... anyways I was thinking about using them too here... http://projectguitar.ibforums.com/index.ph...st&p=457462 ??? Aaaaahm would you mind if those appeared on my fingerboard too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Foreigner Posted July 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2010 as far as I know - I don't remember having seen it elsewhere. Tho there's never anything new in guitar design, right? I think I saw it here on PG somewhere... anyways I was thinking about using them too here... http://projectguitar.ibforums.com/index.ph...st&p=457462 ??? Aaaaahm would you mind if those appeared on my fingerboard too? not in the slightest. Until I make it big as a guitar maker, at which point I'll sue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Foreigner Posted July 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 12th fret inlay routed out and poured in: body final shaped and control cavity/holes routed/drilled: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Foreigner Posted July 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 neck ready to carve rough carve done: nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WezV Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 your maple splice has the grain going the wrong way... it means your neck will have very, very little strength in this area Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killemall8 Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 (edited) I thought the same thing wez, but in this pic it looks right? I dont know. Edited July 25, 2010 by killemall8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Foreigner Posted July 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 the grain runs parallel to the neck. the figure is perpendicular to the neck. I think. EDIT: on closer inspection, I have actually managed to get the grain in the maple piece running perpendicular to the length of the neck. sooo.... how fatal a problem is that? is it going to fall apart as soon as there's string tension? or is it just more liable to break if dropped? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WezV Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 thats flame you are seeing kill. look at the earlier pics with slight tear out on the flame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Foreigner Posted July 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 thats flame you are seeing kill. look at the earlier pics with slight tear out on the flame correct. that's the flame running parallel(ish). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Foreigner Posted July 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 thats flame you are seeing kill. look at the earlier pics with slight tear out on the flame correct. that's the flame running parallel(ish). so is this an "oh ****!!!" moment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wademeister Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 so is this an "oh ****!!!" moment? Oh yeah, that qualifies for sure! Buuut... it's maple and you could leave the fretboard a little thick. Probably would be ok but I wouldn't expect it to survive much abuse. While checking out the pics looking for the grain I did notice one thing though... If you look close you can see it right there above the volute in your pic. It appears it may even be pluggd in, which would be a really good thing right about now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Foreigner Posted July 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 If you look close you can see it right there above the volute in your pic. It appears it may even be pluggd in, which would be a really good thing right about now ha ha, i know. i really need to have a good clean up down there. so consensus is I could get away with this particular cockup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WezV Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 to me it looks like it will snap very easily right where that 3rd fet marker is. maybe not on first string up - but it wont last long after that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Foreigner Posted July 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 ok, looks like i'll be doing the neck over, then... ah well. you live, you learn. every mistake is something learned, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WezV Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 best idea i reckon! if you want a learning experience you can try to take it apart as carefully as possible. obviously you can save the truss rod but you may also get the fretboard off in a usable condition. at that stage you could probably slice out the bad splice and save most of what you have.... good experience for repairing severe neck breaks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Foreigner Posted July 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 best idea i reckon! if you want a learning experience you can try to take it apart as carefully as possible. obviously you can save the truss rod but you may also get the fretboard off in a usable condition. at that stage you could probably slice out the bad splice and save most of what you have.... good experience for repairing severe neck breaks i think i'll just start from scratch. the TR route wasn't as clean as I would have liked anyway, nor the fret markers. I'll def pull the TR out and reuse it at least. good opportunity to do over, take my time, do everything more carefully and aim to make the build a lot cleaner and more professional. might try a laminate neck as well - thinking maple, paduak and bubinga for some nice color variation - unless there's some reason those combos wouldn't work (I'm VERY paranoid now!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Foreigner Posted July 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 PS thanks to Wez for spotting this and pointing it out before I got any further in the build. Stuff like that which is obvious to more experienced hands, and completely NOT obvious to noobs like me is precisely why I post on these forums, and precisely why they're so useful. i'm even finding I now have some advice to contribute to others at the very noob stages, and I think it's great that people can pass on their knowledge like this. Thanks Wez! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Foreigner Posted July 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 might try a laminate neck as well - thinking maple, paduak and bubinga for some nice color variation - unless there's some reason those combos wouldn't work (I'm VERY paranoid now!!) Seriously tho, any reason I shouldn't use those woods together? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RestorationAD Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 might try a laminate neck as well - thinking maple, paduak and bubinga for some nice color variation - unless there's some reason those combos wouldn't work (I'm VERY paranoid now!!) Seriously tho, any reason I shouldn't use those woods together? They are fine. Don't be paranoid. Experience is a tough teacher but you don't forget the lessons. Especially woodworking 101 lessons like grain orientation. My suggestion is to stop worrying about the types of wood and focus on the wood working You can build guitars out of about anything when your woodworking skills are good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Foreigner Posted July 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 You can build guitars out of about anything when your woodworking skills are good enough. ha ha ha! that's the problem, I think! zero woodworking skills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WezV Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 yeah, those woods all make nice necks you may as well test that join to beaking point now - just to convince yourself of the importance of grain direction. and because i want to see if i guessed its breaking point right (3rd fret marker) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Foreigner Posted July 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 ...because i want to see if i guessed its breaking point right (3rd fret marker) That answers that, then. The thing snapped like a dry twig. Scary what a difference 90 degrees makes. Lesson well and truly learned. I was able to save the fretboard so I'll reuse that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted July 28, 2010 Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 Is it a box truss rod that you are using? Was it glued in? and if so hard to get out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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