demonx Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 How much dust and crap is in that finish? You should find a better location or do some better location prep work before doing anything more. If I had dust like that in a finish I'd have to sand it back and start again. I have for much less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob123 Posted December 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 How much dust and crap is in that finish? You should find a better location or do some better location prep work before doing anything more. If I had dust like that in a finish I'd have to sand it back and start again. I have for much less. haha thats just some wd40 I sprayed on it dude, its gonna get an oil finish in my kitchen when Im ready for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelvock Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 Bob why the hell are you spraying WD40 on it! I really can't see that helping when you come to finish with the oil, just wipe some thinners on if you want to show the grain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted December 2, 2012 Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 haha thats just some wd40 I sprayed on it dude *facepalm* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob123 Posted December 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 (edited) Err, why not? O.o Alcohol based dye + thinner = mess... wd40 leaves no mess and wipes off with a rag? It also lasts much longer for photo purposes. If I used thinner, it would bleed the dye and ruin my faux binding. Anyway, first coat of oil applied. I will do a couple thicker coats wiped on, then do the sand in method. That said, if anyone has some tips n tricks for making control cavities look pretty, Id love to hear it. Im just planning on dabbin in some black acrylic and then copper foiling it. Edited December 2, 2012 by bob123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonx Posted December 2, 2012 Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 haha thats just some wd40 I sprayed on it dude *facepalm* I can't even think of anything to say. I think wes coveted it all! Bob. Simply put, when you want to paint or oil something, you want zero contaminants. Not deliberately introducing them. I have never heard of anyone using WD40 in luthiery, in fact I don't even use the stuff as a lube, it's dreadful! I even cringe when I see people wipe shellite or even water over timber for photos. When I spray my sealers I want them sprayed on raw timber, not timber that's been molested with something that could ruin the finish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted December 2, 2012 Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 in fact I don't even use the stuff as a lube, it's dreadful! It's only good for removing rusted bolts when doing mechanic work.I use it all the time for that,but it's a good way to ruin moving parts as a lube...plus it melts proper grease and what it leaves behind is not sufficient to keep moving parts from seizing up. Can also be used as gun oil in a pinch,but it's not as good as the right stuff. Bottom line is that WD-40 is a contaminant on wood...like Demonx said,keep your wood clean.For photos I use denatured alcohol,but I don't really do the "wet" photos anymore...I like to save the final figuring for the big finish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonx Posted December 2, 2012 Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 For photos I use denatured alcohol,but I don't really do the "wet" photos anymore...I like to save the final figuring for the big finish I say **** the photos. What is the point in buying kiln dried or air dried wood that is at a certain moisture content (so our guitars dont twist and fall apart) if you plan on just rubbing moisture back into them! Leave it dry till it's sealed/painted. As far as rattle can lubes and penetrating old rusted bolts etc, I use inox. If someone came into my workshop and sprayed inox in a guitar I'd possibly knock them out. It's a silicone based lube. Not a product to be used for guitar purposes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob123 Posted December 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 Fair enough! I think half of it is I get impatient and want to see how its going to look. Patience with finishing is not my strong suit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted December 2, 2012 Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 What is the point in buying kiln dried or air dried wood that is at a certain moisture content (so our guitars dont twist and fall apart) if you plan on just rubbing moisture back into them! Different thing entirely.I agree to an extent but we all know rubbing water isn't turning it back to green wood.And denatured alcohol is not moisture any more than polyurethane is. Of course the photo wetting is sort of a newb thing,but we all clean up the wood and wipe it down to see what it looks like and get an idea of what to do with it...at least those of us who use figured woods do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonx Posted December 2, 2012 Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 Patience with finishing is not my strong suit Nor mine. It's something I have to fight everytime I finish a guitar! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonx Posted December 2, 2012 Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 Also bob, check your for sale post, it looks like verhoevenc is wanting to buy from you. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted December 2, 2012 Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 If the wood has WD 40 on it Chris may not want it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob123 Posted December 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 Ok, I wasnt happy with the pink-ness, I wanted PURPLE. So I redid it. Been working a lot so I havent been able to do much lately, but here we go. The color is more even then my unforgiving camera suggests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 Now THAT'S what I'm talkin' about! SR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbinst Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 Beautiful color! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob123 Posted December 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 thanks guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelvock Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 Yeeaaaahh Boi! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Our Souls inc. Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 WD-40? I musta missed that class. the WD stands for water displacement -it's intended use was to make spark-plug wires work when they were wet. Its not a lubricant, although everyone seems to treat it as such. I do like the new shade of purple tho- very rick looking / much more saturated. good stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonx Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 This purple lokos much, much better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonx Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 WD-40? I musta missed that class. the WD stands for water displacement Yes is does - but this doesnt mean its water, it means its dor displacing water! Read the "function" section and tell me again if you think its a good idea to spray on a surface you want zero contamination on: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WD-40 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob123 Posted December 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 (edited) Ironically, its the same shade, I didn't dillute it any different. I dunno, maybe I didn't mix the bottle correctly last time or something, I dunno. Glad y'all like it, I'm thrilled with the color! As for wd40, I stand bty what I said earlier. Its mostly petroleum distillates, same type as naptha or mineral oil, both of which are commonly used in wood working. It doesn't penetrate wood, and if you don't believe me, try it out on a scrap piece. It wipes off with some thinner or alcohol, leaving a clean, dry surface. I would never spray it before a finish, that's just silly, but it does come off and leaves no residue... believe it or not, doesn't matter. I will agree with the "wait for the finish"statements though. Edited December 13, 2012 by bob123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prostheta Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 WD-40? I musta missed that class. the WD stands for water displacement -it's intended use was to make spark-plug wires work when they were wet. Its not a lubricant, although everyone seems to treat it as such. I do like the new shade of purple tho- very rick looking / much more saturated. good stuff. Oddly enough - although this is one of its most common uses nowadays - it was developed to prevent moisture condensation corroding the insides of missiles in silos. You know, nukes. The 40 means it was the fortieth formulation. Yeah, I hate the stuff. It's good for freeing up seized parts but ends up collecting more junk than it removes eventually. People even recommend it in place of a proper switch cleaner in pots! Can you believe that? Exactly the place you DON'T want any junk collecting. That stuff should be put to death along with the cold war it was invented in. Rant over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob123 Posted December 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 OK gents, I decided on what Im gonna do. Im gonna do the back black. I want the wood showing, but its just too much of a pain to get everything "just right" there. this way I get a professional result without any more drama with the wood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 What happened? Your last pic of the back looked very nice. SR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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