avengers63 Posted August 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 The main reason is to make it easier to work on the fretboard. Multitasking while the finish cures is a bonus prize. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddiewarlock Posted August 22, 2013 Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 doesn't seem like a good reason to me. You can do that before. I wouldn't have carved the neck either. You can inlay and fret the fretboard before it's on the neck. After that, you only need to level and recrown frets, and after that, paint the guitar. No multitasking involved. Like the guys above have said, it is a recipe for refinish... No offense mate, but it seems like you really looking for ways to waste your time and money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avengers63 Posted August 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 Thank's for the concern. If it's a mistake, then it's mine to make. One of us will be right in a few months. If it's y'all, then I'll take my "told ya so's" like a man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted August 22, 2013 Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 Personally John, I like your need to try new methods and materials just because you want to know how it comes out. The rest of us can learn along with you.......and frankly, I suffer from a bit of that myself. SR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avengers63 Posted August 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 Scott, my friend... I think you're right. I've ALWAYS had problems with finish/paint bleeding over onto the f/b. It doesn't matter how much I tape & prep, it bleeds in every single time. Maybe that's in the back of my mind with this. If this works out, I'm gold. If not, so be it. The f/b is going to be flush with the body. I don't want to risl gouging the body with the radius blocks, so I'll be doing it separately. This also makes the f/b MUCH easier to inlay. IIDK if I'll be fretting it off the guitar or not. I've read that it can cause the board to curve, which might lead to breakage when it's clamped on. After the inlay work, that would be.... unfortunate. For the new materials, I know you're dead-on. Also, I'm bored to death with the traditional "maple/mahogany" formula. There ARE other combos that work wonderfully. I guess I look at not using anything other than traditional woods as voodoo. And we all know how I love to give voodoo a hard poke in the eye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonx Posted August 22, 2013 Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 One question How after painting do you plan on prepping the fingerboard area for lamination, as the paint will bleed onto this area, then it'll have to be planed, which will then wreck your paint. You can scrape it, but then you're creating an in even surface. I think you may need to re think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sancho Marino Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 "Poking voodoo in the eye" This is an interesting build... looking forward to watching it come together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avengers63 Posted August 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 One question How after painting do you plan on prepping the fingerboard area for lamination, as the paint will bleed onto this area, then it'll have to be planed, which will then wreck your paint. You can scrape it, but then you're creating an in even surface. I think you may need to re think it already be all prepped up n junk ima just tape it up reel good-like Seriously - I've alrealy thought of that. If the paint bleeds in too far or if I have to do anything that might dork up the surface, I'll be using epoxy. Listen... I'm not just going about this with a "F-if! Let's see what happens" attitude. Believe it or not, I really do think things through before deciding on a course of action. I was thinking about this build off & on for about a month while I was driving my route (I'm a bus driver). I have a TON of free mental time to ponder every aspect of what's being planned, including contingency plans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonx Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 Fair enough - just presenting possible issues. Personally though, if the main thing you're worried about is bumping the body whilst radiusing, then you'll have a panic attack when it comes to bevel the fret edges! In all seriousness, my opinion (I said my opinion, doesn't mean its fact or law) is that what you're doing is counter productive and going to create larger issues than the small ones your trying to avoid. As I said, only my 2c, now prove us all wrong! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhoads56 Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 Im not even sure what you mean by paint bleed. You mean the colour bleeds under the clear? If so, you're doing it really wrong. If you mean it gets on the fretboard face, then we all have that issue to some extent. Razor blade as a scraper fixes it in under two minutes for the whole surface. Just doing it in an arse about way, is going to take CONSIDERABLY longer. Efficiency man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdshirtman Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 Thank's for the concern. If it's a mistake, then it's mine to make. One of us will be right in a few months. If it's y'all, then I'll take my "told ya so's" like a man. Fair enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avengers63 Posted August 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 Yea... I'm meaning that the clear always ends up getting on the f/b. Even if it does end up taking longer than it's worth, I'm just a dude in his garage. Time is NOT of the essense for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonx Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 If that's all you're on about, that happens to EVERYONE and its fixed in maybe two minutes with a razor blade to do the entire board as Perry said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddiewarlock Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 and the key is to use good quality tape, like 3M's fine line tape, 1/8" whenever i have used it i have had 0 bleed. Using paper tape sucks, no matter how good it is. It's not appropiate for that task. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avengers63 Posted August 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 I think I'm done with this part of the conversation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazygtr Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 how thin is ( will be ) that body? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avengers63 Posted August 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 1 1/8" thick I can't get it any thinner because of pup depth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddiewarlock Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 I think I'm done with this part of the conversation well dude, if you don't want people commenting on your possible mistakes, say that you don't want advices and don't post stuff here. G'day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avengers63 Posted August 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 White primer is great. It acts as a highlighter for the body prep you missed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonx Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 I had a guy working here for a bit, i was training him to do everything I do. He doesnt work here anymore, moved interstate, so I lost my assistant. Anyway, he was a spray painter at an truck/trailer manufacturers and left a jackson guitar body here that he'd sprayed at his work in some high fill white primer. I have no idea what sort, but its now all crows footing and cracking apart. Only time I've seen white primer. All that I've bought have been either light grey or dark grey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avengers63 Posted September 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 Good news: I just confirmed that DupliColor automotive lacquer does NOT eat Krylon spray paint like standard lacquer does. This will make all future paint jobs much easier. A can goes for about $22/quart, but that's still cheaper than mail ordering w/b lacquer from Stew-Mac. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avengers63 Posted September 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 I keep telling y'all that I simply cannot be trusted with a guitar and a can of paint, but ya just don't wanna believe me. chambered white limba tele, cherry neck & f/b, stab-you-in-the-eyes-yellow paint the turquoise is turning out pretty nice horrible and wonderfully hair-metal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avengers63 Posted September 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2013 The paint and lacquer were having mixed results. In some places it was fine, in others the lacquer was eating the paint. So........ I went to the hardware store and had them mix pigment into some water-based poly. This isn't what I wanted, but it'll just have to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avengers63 Posted September 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 I finally started working on the inlays. I haven't started the tests with the tinted w/b poly yet because I'm still spraying a couple other bodies. I don't wanna switch between lacquer & poly every other day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Natural Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 cool inlays! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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