GuitarGuy Posted May 24, 2018 Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 Hi, im not new but I havent done anything guitar related since 2007ish. This was on my bucket list so I figured I may as well give it a go. When its done it will be a solid bar with the "body" welded in a cage format. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FINEFUZZ Posted May 24, 2018 Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 I really like the horns, and that they are offset. What are your thoughts on finish? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitarGuy Posted May 24, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 Powdercoat, reflective purple. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norris Posted May 25, 2018 Report Share Posted May 25, 2018 Ooh I say. That's a bit different! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted May 25, 2018 Report Share Posted May 25, 2018 I'm looking forward to seeing this one come about. SR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FINEFUZZ Posted May 25, 2018 Report Share Posted May 25, 2018 15 hours ago, GuitarGuy said: Powdercoat, reflective purple. Awesome, that is very appropriate material choice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitarGuy Posted May 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2018 Made a little progress, i need to machine the flats for the neck and bridge. The process of welding the plate put a lttle warp to it. Nothing big, the mill will fix it right up      Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyjr1515 Posted May 31, 2018 Report Share Posted May 31, 2018 Wow.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitarGuy Posted June 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 And a little bit more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 I can't wait to see what you've got planned for the neck. SR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitarGuy Posted June 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, ScottR said: I can't wait to see what you've got planned for the neck. SR Nothing fancy, ash or maple. Dark fretboard. Rosewood or cocobolo perhaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 Well, that's eminently practical. I was picturing the back of the neck in straight steel rods, but couldn't envision a steel rod fretboard. SR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitarGuy Posted June 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 1 hour ago, ScottR said: Well, that's eminently practical. I was picturing the back of the neck in straight steel rods, but couldn't envision a steel rod fretboard. SR Its on my list of things i want to try, but i cant figure out how to do steel frets. You could bend them to the right radius but as soon as they are welded in they would warp. They would need to be pressed into something. A project for another time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prostheta Posted June 2, 2018 Report Share Posted June 2, 2018 Mill slots then freeze the frets and let them re-expand in place? I know we're talking what, a thou off an inch per hundred degrees so this is more machine shop stuff than fab. I'm sure it'll grind out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitarGuy Posted June 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2018 Just mocked up together, but its taking shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prostheta Posted June 9, 2018 Report Share Posted June 9, 2018 What sort of flexibility exists in the structure? I'd imagine that there would be a lot of flexure that might produce some quite insane filtering within the instrument as a system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitarGuy Posted June 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2018 Not sure yet. The bridge, backbone and neck mount is stronger than a hardwood body is. Im not sure how the cage will respond to vibration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prostheta Posted June 9, 2018 Report Share Posted June 9, 2018 I'm not sure either. I think that the more complex a shape is, the more odd the vibration characteristics before. An interesting venture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitarGuy Posted June 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2018 A little machining done today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prostheta Posted June 14, 2018 Report Share Posted June 14, 2018 Ahhh. Very interesting way of tying the bridge and neck plate together. It sounds ridiculous on first examination, however, does that part have a distinct tap tone? I'm super curious as to how this approach will affect the instrument from resonance, absorption, interference, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitarGuy Posted June 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2018 I don't partake in the tap tone school of thought unfortunately. The Idea that you can tap a pice of wood and then change its form, attach some stuff to it, then expect it to respond to the same frequencies is lost on me. Just for fun, it rings like a bell, fwiw, I dont know what it's natural resonant frequency will be, but im sure it will be apparent when its together and playable. Im just worried about the extra metal affecting the current in the coil. Im leaning toward some sympathetic vibrations being read by the coil creating a chorous or vocal effect. But its pure speculation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitarGuy Posted June 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2018 So would this be a solid body guitar? Semi hollow? Hollow? Air? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prostheta Posted June 14, 2018 Report Share Posted June 14, 2018 Well, me neither. Tap "tone" is acoustic territory. I was more wondering if the workpieces resonate like a bell, and it seems they do. Hmm. Have you seen the bronze guitar in progress here? Once the body is grounded, I think there will be few issues with stray currents or interactions....that said, this is on a completely different scale of mass to things like Tele ashtray weirdnesses! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Natural Posted June 14, 2018 Report Share Posted June 14, 2018 4 hours ago, GuitarGuy said: So would this be a solid body guitar? Semi hollow? Hollow? Air? its an "Air Metal" guitar. (where is the rim shot emoji when you need it)  2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FINEFUZZ Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 On 6/14/2018 at 4:06 AM, GuitarGuy said: I don't partake in the tap tone school of thought unfortunately. The Idea that you can tap a pice of wood and then change its form, attach some stuff to it, then expect it to respond to the same frequencies is lost on me. Just for fun, it rings like a bell, fwiw, I dont know what it's natural resonant frequency will be, but im sure it will be apparent when its together and playable. Im just worried about the extra metal affecting the current in the coil. Im leaning toward some sympathetic vibrations being read by the coil creating a chorous or vocal effect. But its pure speculation. I am exploring of effect of resonance with my build with almost the identical theories you have. With my build I am hoping there will be a noticeable resonant frequency that will feed into "sympathetic vibrations" or harmonic oscillation. The reality is, the only true way to know the outcome is through building a complete guitar, there are just too many variables to speculate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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