westhemann Posted August 26, 2005 Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 well...i guess it's time to start showing some progress... this is the guitar at the epoxy sealer stage i used the 2 part epoxy from home depot..the clear stuff...then i mixed it,added black dye and a little denatured alcohol to thin it,and applied it with a foam brush(disposable) after this coat you see here i started to thin it more before applying...saved me alot of sanding.this stuff dries hard as a rock within one hour...so it is best to get it as level as possible during application Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mledbetter Posted August 26, 2005 Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 nice work. that's lookin awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughes Posted August 26, 2005 Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 very nice indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted August 26, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 thanks..oh..and before somebody asks...yes the two humbucker routs are different sizes...i am using a mounting ring at the bridge so i used a stewmac template for it,but i am direct mounting the neck to get the sound i am looking for,so that rout is super tight to the pickup...i also extended the set neck all the way past the neck pickup so that the neck pickup is surrounded almost all the way in maple......i just think the clean is better in maple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtis P Posted August 26, 2005 Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 amazing work as always wes Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lietuvis Posted August 26, 2005 Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 I've got a CAD for one of those, so it'll probably be one of the next guitars I make... after my V and the bass I plan to make. If you could post a tutorial or any tips for making an F, that would be sw00t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted August 26, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 If you could post a tutorial or any tips for making an F, that would be sw00t. well...it's just like any other guitar.the identical front and back carves are ridiculously easy to do...unexpectedly so.but maybe i am just awesome you know..take your scale length,draw it out full size,surround it with an f body shape...get to cutting.nothing to it. i am not much for cad...i am more comfortable in the stone age Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted August 26, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 if you have any specific questions in mind,i would be happy to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden69 Posted August 26, 2005 Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 I'm glad you are working at it again, but I will hold my comments till I see pics of the sanded body, I love the F style so I won't take it easy on you, so you better step up to my expectancies or else! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haggardguy Posted August 26, 2005 Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 Don't you mean expectations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigtommyb Posted August 26, 2005 Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 i prefer expectancies it sounds funnier! lol But i love the F series so good luck! T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden69 Posted August 26, 2005 Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 yes expectancies, (lol expectations is the right word) but in my spanglish it came out like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitarfrenzy Posted August 26, 2005 Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 Nice work Wes, looking great. Isn't that black epoxy mix a mess though.. lol Whenever I do a black epoxy I end up getting more on myself than the guitar.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted August 26, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 Nice work Wes, looking great. Isn't that black epoxy mix a mess though.. lol Whenever I do a black epoxy I end up getting more on myself than the guitar.. ← well i mixed the epox myself...but applying it is really easy and clean with those foam brushes... sanding it...now that is messy.i get covered head to toe in epoxy dust I love the F style so I won't take it easy on you, so you better step up to my expectancies or else! i don't know what that means...i am the one that has toplay it when it's done...so i think my expecctations are a little higher than yours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay5 Posted August 26, 2005 Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 Sweet man! I am getting ready to grain fill my mahogany tele body soon and I was thinking about going the epoxy rout. I never thought of the foam brush method. A couple of questions, how much epoxy did you end up using (how many tubes)? Also, how much does it need to be thinned? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted August 26, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 i used 2 tubes...one front,one back.thinned about 50% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted August 27, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2005 after sanding...it needs a bit more surface prep before applying the color coats...but i have other things to attend to,so that will be slightly delayed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marksound Posted August 27, 2005 Report Share Posted August 27, 2005 Wes, how careful do you have to be with the epoxy around the holes for bridge studs, pots, etc.? How thin/thick are the coats you're putting on? You don't have to run a drill back through the holes after the epoxy hardens, do you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted August 27, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2005 You don't have to run a drill back through the holes after the epoxy hardens, do you? after the finishing altogether i will...that's the best way to make sure it doesn't compress and crack the finish around the holes. i never worry about the holes until i am completely finished...then i run a drill bit in on reverse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drak Posted August 27, 2005 Report Share Posted August 27, 2005 That is looking top-flight, very nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitarMaestro Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 Great looking project Wes! Just one question: What is the epoxy good for? Usually you use it to enhance the grain and then sand back after applying. Judging by the pics that's not what your going for though....do you use it as a primer/grain filler? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted August 28, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 do you use it as a primer/grain filler? yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden69 Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 Looks better now. On question did the template for the bridge pup slided out while routing or is the position of the guitar in the pic? It looks as if the ear of the rout is smaller on the bass side then on the oposite. I never thought about using epoxy that way, and the Stew Mac stuff is hard as nails and a B* to sand back. How difficult was for you? Keep the pics coming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitarMaestro Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 yes But the common grain fillers are easier to level I think and will leave a thinner layer not dampening the wood as much. What's your reason for choosing the epoxy? Super tough finish? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGGR Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 Choosing the right epoxy is critical in this process. Some epoxies harden rock solid, and are impossible tough to sand.....while others are designed to be sanded down. West Systems Epoxy e.g. has perfect sanding capabilities. It was specially designed for this in the boat building world. (mostly these type of epoxies are not structurally as sound as the more tougher sanding ones.........so you won't see Composite airplanes and so being build with these kinda epoxies - at least not on structural components). My impression is that Wes is using it as a grainfiller......so sandability must have been high on his list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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