ebenezer shred Posted May 11, 2007 Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 hate to say it, but it looks exactly like the wes borland signature guitar to me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnn_h Posted May 11, 2007 Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 I didnt even know that guitar existed. thats something new to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattharris75 Posted May 11, 2007 Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 I must still disagree, for scaling vector-based wins hands down. The beauty of vector-based graphics is that you can scale them all you want without loosing quality, with photoshop you'll end up with a blurry image. I think you're misunderstanding me. I import into photoshop a vector file from Illustrator. I import it at the proper scale and resolution for printing and have no need for any further scaling. I listed the reasons why I like this approach earlier in the thread. I'm not saying the other method is wrong, but I find this very easy to work with for everything I do with it (Rendering,trying out hardware/woods, etc, etc.). I work with both photoshop and illustrator as part of my job, so I understand the differences and positives/negatives with each software package and file format. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikevirok Posted May 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 I didnt even know that guitar existed. thats something new to me. Me neither.... now I'm pretty P.O.'d........ still building it..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikevirok Posted May 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 The more I look at it, the creepier I feel... I am really starting to work myself up over this..... it's pretty damned close to what I sketched... and I never saw it before now.... f'ing Yamaha... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnewman Posted May 11, 2007 Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 (edited) hate to say it, but it looks exactly like the wes borland signature guitar to me... You have an odd definition of "exactly." Sure, there are some similarities, but there are plenty of differences, too. The larger tail-end bout is one a different side and shaped differently, lower horn is different, headstock is different, etc. It's pretty hard to come up with something that doesn't look at least somewhat like what someone else has done at this point. Not saying it's impossible, but it often mean that either you've made it uncomfortable to play, made it weird enough that most people won't want to play it, or that you just haven't found the guitar it looks like yet. In short, you came up with it, you like it, so build it and don't flip about it. Edited May 11, 2007 by jnewman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikevirok Posted May 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 Thanks, jnewman. I wasn't about to let anything stand in my way of what I consider to be my first original design. While my sketches do share some similarities with that Yamaha guitar, I feel mine holds its own in its own ways. I will build it. And it will be mine. =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregP Posted May 11, 2007 Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 Well, if you build pointy-butt, it'll have less in common with it. Re: vector vs. raster--> I don't know the Adobe products. I only know Paint Shop Pro (for bitmap) and Real-Draw Pro (for vector). Realdraw lets you seamlessly utilize bitmaps as layers or for things like textures, without losing any more detail than you would by resizing in a bitmap editing program. PSP has a few nice tools for me to isolate the parts of the bitmap I need, but then everything else is done in Real-Draw. I've had people say my mockup looks extra-realistic. This is due to the accuracy and features of the vector-based approach, combined with the textures of the bitmap. And all done in Real-Draw Pro, a $30 shareware program. Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCH Posted May 11, 2007 Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 I didnt even know that guitar existed. thats something new to me. Me neither.... now I'm pretty P.O.'d........ still building it..... I think we're getting into the stage of guitar building where uniqueness is going to be harder to achieve; especially in the so called 'traditional' look. A lot of guitars have been built. Chances are what you may think is original, has probably been done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geo Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 I vote for the pointy-butt. It is REALLY cool looking, especially the way the f-holes "interact" with the whole thing. It will be one KILLER semi-hollow!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikevirok Posted May 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 I'm leaning more towards the pointy-butt one too.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmrentis Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 I'm going to have to jump on the band wagon and vote for the pointy butt one, not just because I like it better, but because I have been working on a deisgn for a while that includes a pointy butt. The orginal design did not have one, but when doodling I added one and it seemed to make the original design work even better. Problem is the pointy part made the design a tad long for the top I had in mind, but in drawing out to size on the top it seemed to fit alright. I Still need to cut some width off the waist area. Anyway, I like your guitar design a lot. The one I am doing will not be liked by many, but is something that I must do for myself as I have had the idea for a long time. When the project gets further along I will post the deisgn. Best of luck to you on your build and congrats on the cool design. There were definately some significant differences in the guitar posted, so no worries there. As I think jnewman mentioned it is extremely tough to make a guitar design that doesn't resemble another design, many times I have drawn out something and found something real close it later on guitar site. If you like it, then build it for yourself, especially if you sat down and drew it to your preferences. Again good luck and keep us posted on the progress. J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 This is great. Pretty soon you'll be calling it the "Mike Viroc Pointy-Butt Guitar" officially. Classy I cast my vote for the pointy-butt, too. It's cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegarehanman Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 I like the a-symmetrical look more. The pointy butt one is nice too though, that profile reminds me a lot of myka's sungazer design Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikevirok Posted June 17, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2007 It's coming along.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattia Posted June 17, 2007 Report Share Posted June 17, 2007 It's coming along.... Very, very nice....but you're going to need to give use a) more details on woods and more pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikevirok Posted June 17, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2007 Yes, I didn't realize that I had not mentioned the types of wood used on the guitar yet. The top is 2 piece Canary Wood, the back is 2 piece Spanish Cedar. The neck is a 3 piece Mahogany with a 13º pitch headstock, and a Black & White Ebony (!!!) fretboard. I'll be adding more to this post soon; I just need to sort through all of the pictures first and let you all in on the build. I am also building 3 other electrics at the same time (each has the same body style, only solid bodies): CMCg-I Body: 2 piece Spanish Cedar back, 2 piece Canary Wood top (semi-hollow) Neck: 3-piece Mahogany (deep set), Black & White Ebony fret-board Hardware: Planet Waves™ Auto-Trim locking tuners, Hipshot™ Fulcrum tremolo Pickups: PRS McCarty (neck & bridge), Seymour Duncan Vintage Rails (middle) Controls: master volume, master tone with push/pull coil tap for the bridge and activation of the middle pickup (ala Swamp Ash Special), 3-way toggle switch Extras: Wenge knobs. CMCg-II Body: ? back, 5 piece Canary Wood/Birds-Eye Maple/Blood Wood top (lightly carved) Neck: 1 piece Canary Wood with Blood Wood fret-board (bolt on) Hardware: Planet Waves Auto-Trim locking tuners, Hipshot fixed bridge. Pickups: Gibson P-90s (neck & bridge) Controls: master tone, master volume, 3 way toggle switch. Extras: Blood-Wood knobs CMCg-III Body: (5 piece) Mahogany/Wenge/Ash (solid, lightly carved) Neck: 1 piece Bubinga, Wenge fret board (bolt on) Hardware: Planet Waves Auto-Trim tuners, Hipshot Fulcrum tremolo. Pickups: Gibson Dirty Fingers (bridge & neck) Controls: master tone, master volume, 5 way PRS-style rotary switch Extras: Wenge knobs. CMCg-IV Body: 2 piece Alder (solid, lightly carved) Neck: 1 piece Birds-Eye Maple with Coco-Bolo fret-board. Hardware: Planet Waves Auto-Trim tuners, Hipshot fixed bridge Pickups: Gibson P90 (bridge) Controls: master volume, master tone. Extras: Purple Heart knobs, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tubab0y Posted June 17, 2007 Report Share Posted June 17, 2007 i love the fretboard! and whatever the top is (canarywood?) is a really different color- very cool. i really hope you're leaving it natural. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAK Guitars Posted June 17, 2007 Report Share Posted June 17, 2007 (edited) Yeah that fretboard kicks ass! I'm really liking the woods! Good job! Edited June 17, 2007 by WAK Guitars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanthus Posted June 17, 2007 Report Share Posted June 17, 2007 Wow.... Like.... wow... I love those woods, they're so "active" as in there's a lot of motion going on when you look at it. I'm a fan, the only thing though is I would have a compulsion to just try and scrub the black off of that fretboard every time I see it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikevirok Posted June 17, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2007 i love the fretboard! and whatever the top is (canarywood?) is a really different color- very cool. i really hope you're leaving it natural. Oh yeah, it's going to be finished natural. The top is Canary Wood that was about 20 years old pulled from a crate that came from a shipment from Mexico back in the 80s. It was an amazing find at the wood shop down here in Atalanta. Wait until you see the other canary wood top I'm working on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted June 18, 2007 Report Share Posted June 18, 2007 I really like the slightly asymmetrical f-holes. Pulls it all together. Man, I can't wait to see this finished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted June 18, 2007 Report Share Posted June 18, 2007 It's coming along.... Wow! Thats looking fantastic! keep up the good work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decadentjon Posted June 18, 2007 Report Share Posted June 18, 2007 dude that looks incredible. its so balanced. while being a fairly different shape of guitar it still looks very logical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikevirok Posted June 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 It's coming along! Everything is routed (as far as pickups and trem'), and the fretboard was glued on last night along with the veneer earlier in the day for the headstock. Today I'll be finishing up the woodworking with the control layouts, tuning-peg holes, deepening the trem cavity (springs are rubbing right now, needs to be deeper) & radius the fretboard. Then I can finally install some hardware, frets, bone nut, etc., and put her in the spray-shack for finishing. I might have it up and running by next Wednesday!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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