Roadhouse Blues Posted July 1, 2005 Report Share Posted July 1, 2005 (edited) Which bridge would you prefer, and why. It'll be a carved-top, PRS style as I mentioned in my other topic(s). 25" scale lenght (doesnt really matter) mahogany base, curly maple top, maple neck, hopefully nice Bridge 1: http://www.warmoth.com/hardware/bridges/br...idges_gotoh_510 Bridge 2: http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Bridges,_tailp..._Tailpiece.html I think that's what I've narrowed it down to. I want a bridge/tailpiece, and they're similar in price, money does not matter. Why is the one you choose better? If there's a better bridge/tailpiece, tell me! Thanks -Matt Edited July 1, 2005 by Roadhouse Blues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pr3Va1L Posted July 1, 2005 Report Share Posted July 1, 2005 The gotoh is a bridge. The Schaller is a talipiece, with wich you still need a bridge (tom)... So i'd go for a gotoh bridge/tailpiece Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickguard Posted July 1, 2005 Report Share Posted July 1, 2005 This one's my favorite: Hipshot Baby Grand Just for the look! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian d Posted July 1, 2005 Report Share Posted July 1, 2005 Which bridge would you prefer, and why. It'll be a carved-top, PRS style as I mentioned in my other topic(s). 25" scale lenght (doesnt really matter) mahogany base, curly maple top, maple neck, hopefully nice Bridge 1: http://www.warmoth.com/hardware/bridges/br...idges_gotoh_510 ← Have a look at the TonePros AVT 2 also (http://www.tonepros.com/Products.htm) if you want a combined TOM/tailpiece. They have beautifully made products with exceptionally good customer service. BTW, why do you want a combined bridge/tailpiece? Is it an issue of sound, or aesthetics? Have you considered a TOM bridge with strings through body? That combination should give you more of the character of the wood than the combined bridge/tailpiece like the Gotoh 510 or AVT2. Regards, Brian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
komodo Posted July 1, 2005 Report Share Posted July 1, 2005 I just bought a gold version of the 510 from Warmoth and have to say it's very nice. I also considered a TOM and the Schaller combo, but the body design I am working with is a slightly smaller size and I have less room to play with. So I wanted a one piece unit. Also, the 510 is very nice for palm muting. I personally find the TOM a little harder to rest my hand on. KOMODO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadhouse Blues Posted July 1, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2005 Which bridge would you prefer, and why. It'll be a carved-top, PRS style as I mentioned in my other topic(s). 25" scale lenght (doesnt really matter) mahogany base, curly maple top, maple neck, hopefully nice Bridge 1: http://www.warmoth.com/hardware/bridges/br...idges_gotoh_510 ← Have a look at the TonePros AVT 2 also (http://www.tonepros.com/Products.htm) if you want a combined TOM/tailpiece. They have beautifully made products with exceptionally good customer service. BTW, why do you want a combined bridge/tailpiece? Is it an issue of sound, or aesthetics? Have you considered a TOM bridge with strings through body? That combination should give you more of the character of the wood than the combined bridge/tailpiece like the Gotoh 510 or AVT2. Regards, Brian. ← Brian, I think it would be easier to use a TOM bridge/tailpiece rather than the two seperate just because it would be an easy one-piece. Also, it would complete the PRS-like guitar. I guess I'm also avoiding the seperate two because I really don't know much about using TOM brdiges / tailpieces seperately (i only have a strat), and I didn't really think of tone. How much better do you think tone would be if I bought a TOM bridge and a tailpiece seperately than with one of my suggestions, or the one you suggested?? thanks everyone. -Matt BTW- idch- I don't wanna spend that much money on the hipshot baby grand- I'm a little cheap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadhouse Blues Posted July 1, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2005 Oh and with the schaller, I wasn't paying attention I guess? Also if there are other threads covering tone of TOM bridge/ tailpiece together vs. seperate, please post the link. THanks again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorecki Posted July 1, 2005 Report Share Posted July 1, 2005 This one's my favorite: Hipshot Baby Grand Just for the look! ← I like the look of those as well, just pricy little buggers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fryovanni Posted July 1, 2005 Report Share Posted July 1, 2005 This is the Schaller Bridge/Tailpiece w/fine tuners. Schaller Peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadhouse Blues Posted July 1, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2005 That's a little expensive and not as compact. I would spend that much money, but I don't think it would be as sleek as the others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickguard Posted July 1, 2005 Report Share Posted July 1, 2005 BTW- idch- I don't wanna spend that much money on the hipshot baby grand- I'm a little cheap ← Yeah, amazing how much some of these parts cost...depends on how many guitars you're planning on building though. If you're just doing one or two, you might as well go for a hot rod. I like the idea of the Tone Pros too, but they're just as expensive. But I've read somewhere that a big part of the tone of an Les Paul Jr. comes from that compensated wraparound bridge.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadhouse Blues Posted July 1, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2005 I'll go up to about $100, but the hipshot may be a little too much for me to handle! I think I may go for the tonepros or the warmoth bridge/tailpiece. Still time to decide before I get to that part of my building. Thanks, keep commenting! -Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted July 1, 2005 Report Share Posted July 1, 2005 (edited) Stewmac has an LP Jr. style bridge for $20! I'm not sure how good quality it is, but it is cheap! http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Bridges,_tailp...ior_Bridge.html Edited July 1, 2005 by Hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedoctor Posted July 1, 2005 Report Share Posted July 1, 2005 The Hipshot BG is NOT expensive. It has everything you need built in and wholsales for about $90.00. What do you want? I just don't think it is a very cool bridge. In gold, it might have some looks but it is just a little lame, for me. Who makes those flamed TOM bridges? I think those might have some potential, if they are any good. You have to remember the source of this opinion. I don't like pickguards, either. Shields up! IMHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Alex Posted July 1, 2005 Report Share Posted July 1, 2005 Stewmac has an LP Jr. style bridge for $20! I'm not sure how good quality it is, but it is cheap! http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Bridges,_tailp...ior_Bridge.html ← only problem is that it is intonated for 4 wound 2 plain strings, not the standard 3w 3p. i think its guitarpartsusa.com that has that in the 3w 3p setup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickguard Posted July 2, 2005 Report Share Posted July 2, 2005 [ only problem is that it is intonated for 4 wound 2 plain strings, not the standard 3w 3p. ← Huh? Where do you get that? Is this because back in the 50s they didn't have a plain G string? I have one of these lying around...took it off in favor of a badass. Now I'm reading that this bridge is important to the sound of an LP Jr. I'm thinking of going for one of these (my next project is going to be a mongrel LP Jr. type): Wilkinson compensated Or better yet, another Wilkinson Seems to make more sense --and not all that much more expensive than StewMac's part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Alex Posted July 2, 2005 Report Share Posted July 2, 2005 I'm not sure how to explain this, but look at the pic of the bridge, the integrated compensation is slanted for 4 strings, then cuts back for the b and e. the g will have incorrect intonation unless your guitar is all raucus, or you have a wound g. for sets of 3 wound 3 plain the g needs to have the saddle back from the d, not infront of the d(sorry not sure of best way to say it). this is because when the guitars that used it were made, the only readily available strings(without mixing in some banjo strings were quite heavy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jivin Posted July 3, 2005 Report Share Posted July 3, 2005 My vote is for the Gotoh 510. I used one of those on a friends warmoth guitar and it had quite a nice feel to it, and it looked good on his guitar too (carved top soloist). Here is a shot of a different carved top soloist with the 510 from the warmoth gallery too: http://www.warmoth.com/gallery/Images/Solo...sonfrench2m.jpg - Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted July 3, 2005 Report Share Posted July 3, 2005 keep in mind that a one piece has a tendency to want to tip forward toward the neck...if the studs are not a super tight fit with the bridge,then it can cause major rattling and intonation problems,and you will have to shim under the bridge to keep it from tipping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmrentis Posted July 3, 2005 Report Share Posted July 3, 2005 (edited) The Hot Rod Drop Top Convertible is what I wanted for the longest time, it's the last few on the link. It is a simple design and looks decent. Although I don't know if I want it anymore, I might just put one on my Ibanez so I can get rid of the tremelo and the wood I use to block it. It will take some moding though. I know someone also mentioned the flamed bridges somewhere, this place has some. Not my bag. Jason Custom Shop Parts Edited July 3, 2005 by jmrentis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanKirk Posted July 3, 2005 Report Share Posted July 3, 2005 I'm using the Hipshot BabyGrand on my loooong project and I love it! It has allen screws to keep the posts from tipping. I have been playing on it for about 2 months now. It's great even though I've been a strat player for a long time. I must admit that I don't know what the tone is since I don't have the pups in it yet. My opinion is only based on playability and sound acoustically. It feels rock solid and comfortable and I'm surprised at how loud and articulate this thing is unplugged compared to my strats and I love the look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadhouse Blues Posted July 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 Great guys, I just got back from vacation, and I'm glad to get so much help from this forum! Well I may go with the Gotoh 510, but Brian D got me thinking about a stop tail piece and TOM seperate.... decisions, decisions. Well I'm starting the project this week and I have another month or so before I'll NEED the bridge, so I'll be doing more research, and tell me your favorite TOM and stop tailpieces please! I need to stop thanking you so much, but thanks again haha, Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 tone pros...no doubt.the differences are worth the extra $ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pr3Va1L Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 Schaller piezo tom , wich actually costs not a whole lot more than a regular schaller tom... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian d Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 tone pros...no doubt.the differences are worth the extra $ ← Wes, do you mean the tone pros wrap around better than tone-pros TOM with strings through body, or better than other brands wrap around? If the latter, which do you think is better between the wrap-around vs strings through body? Cheers, Brian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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