Sparky3 Posted September 21, 2008 Report Share Posted September 21, 2008 I'm thinking of buying my first electric guitar. I'm a total beginner and would like some advice on which guitar or guitar-amp package to buy. If i can learn some stuff someday i'd like to learn rock and metal. I heard Ibanez or mabey epiphone les paul special II are good starters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted September 21, 2008 Report Share Posted September 21, 2008 http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product...itar?sku=517233 Best metal guitar (begginer) for the money... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted September 21, 2008 Report Share Posted September 21, 2008 http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product...fier?sku=482276 most versatilebeginner amp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svartberg Posted September 23, 2008 Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 my first guitar was Dean zx, realy good guitar, good paint resistance, very good humbuckers... not too much money but one hell of a guitar! Good for thrash metal and hard rock http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product...itar?sku=519812 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted September 23, 2008 Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 Haha...I feel old,they don't even make my first guitar anymore...it was an Applause strat ripoff... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshvegas Posted September 23, 2008 Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 there is always the yamaha pacifica i wish i'd started on one of those! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToneMonkey Posted September 23, 2008 Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 (edited) If my money covered it, I would probably go for a second hand pacifica and a Vox moddeling amp (AD??VT - I have an AD30VT). Not payed one of the Deans that Wes advised, but it certainly looks the biz. EDIT: And what you save on kit can be spent on a couple of lessons, which will pay dividens. Edited September 23, 2008 by ToneMonkey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tristan Posted September 23, 2008 Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 Yamaha Pacificas are great. I've got one with EMGs in it, plays good for what it is. My first guitar was a bronze warlock and a crate amp. The warlock isn't that great but the crate is a cool little 15 watt amp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted September 23, 2008 Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 I have that Crate...I put in a Jensen speaker...I thin ka vintage 30 would be better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky3 Posted September 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 Are any of the starter paks like epiphone les paul special2 or Ibanez metal pak good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narcissism Posted September 23, 2008 Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 I started off on the Ibanez Jumpstart kit. Mine came with a tape that showed you some first position chords. It was $160 and it included an Ibanez GRX20, a little 25W practice amp, a chord, some tools for the guitar, and a gig bag. I think Fender/Squire makes a package as well with all the same stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden69 Posted September 24, 2008 Report Share Posted September 24, 2008 Are any of the starter paks like epiphone les paul special2 or Ibanez metal pak good. Where is your location? USA? You can go to a pawn shop for the Amp, I got a Crate GX-65 for cheap and I have abuse the hell out of it, 10 yrs and still sounds nice, I like it so much that I bought a MX-120. As for the guitar, the same applies, you can get a decent one if you know what you are looking for and you do your home work. One of those cheap kit guitars is OK, but soon you will feel that you did a bad choice and wished you had bought something better. I don't like the Epiphone from the ones that you posted, so my choice would be the Ibanez. As for the Yamaha, I have used a Pacifica, and I did not liked it a bit... Keep in mind that the Ibanez on the Metal pack is made out of basswood, I made kelly out of it and it sounds good, but it is very soft so you can dind it very bad if you are not careful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted September 24, 2008 Report Share Posted September 24, 2008 (edited) Maiden69 is right, a basswood guitar is slightly better than a guitar made out of cheese. As a first guitar choice you need to make the decision between the major three types of guitar, a- no vibrato - eg a telecaster with no way to wobble the strings, or a wrap around bridge (for me purgatory) b- parallel neck, therefore low string hight, wang bar vibrato, eg stratocaster c- tune o matic with angled neck, great vibrato, eg Gibson style. Then look in second hand shops, when you see one you like, look down the neck like you are sighting down the barrel of a gun. If the neck is badly, or twisted, bent you will easily see it, don't buy it. If the neck is straight and you like the feel and look of the guitar, buy it regardless of what it sounds like. If it sounds good don't do a thing, if it sounds crap, buy a good bridge pick up and swap it out. It will now sound fantastic if you made the right pup choice. Don't swap the neck pup it will always sound good. Happy new guitar day Rock and Roll. Edited September 24, 2008 by Muzz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky3 Posted September 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2008 Would anyone recomend a dean guitar like the vandeta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden69 Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 Would anyone recomend a dean guitar like the vandeta. Only the 1 and up, the other ones are VERY cheaply made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avengers63 Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 Haha...I feel old,they don't even make my first guitar anymore...it was an Applause strat ripoff... I remember those vividly. The shop I hung out in and took lessons at sold them. My first was a Memphis. I think the Applause would have been a better deal. Anyway, I encourage anyone to take a long hard look at Peavy or Yamaha for their first setup. For the money, I genuinely think they have a lot of bang for the buck. Like someone else mentioned, you can scour the pawnshops for a great deal too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToneMonkey Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 As for the Yamaha, I have used a Pacifica, and I did not liked it a bit... This is why you should try out the axes that you are looking at before buying. Most people like the Pacifica, but obviously Maiden didn't get on with it. You're a lot more likely to pick up the guitar and play with it if it's one that you really enjoy playing. You could buy a £2000 PRS, but if you don't get on with it you're less likely to pick it up. I'd visit as many shops as possible and play as many guitars as possible so that you get a feel for what you like. It wont take long before you start to firm up ideas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshvegas Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 As for the Yamaha, I have used a Pacifica, and I did not liked it a bit... This is why you should try out the axes that you are looking at before buying. Most people like the Pacifica, but obviously Maiden didn't get on with it. You're a lot more likely to pick up the guitar and play with it if it's one that you really enjoy playing. You could buy a £2000 PRS, but if you don't get on with it you're less likely to pick it up. I'd visit as many shops as possible and play as many guitars as possible so that you get a feel for what you like. It wont take long before you start to firm up ideas. what he said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishstrat Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 (edited) These days there's not much to choose between a big name, Fender, Gibson, and what used to be considered lower quality copies. The big names are riding on their reputation and little more, Fender has started building to a budget with cheaper parts and Gibson . . . . friend works in a guitar shops and the amount of work that needs to be done to a Gibson when it comes out of the box is shocking. They all need work done to the nut and action to make them playable, either their standards have dropped drastically or quality control is non existant. Here's a shocker for you, we all know how much a Strat costs in a dealers, here's what they cost Fender to make including delivery, a MIM Strat is around $90, a Chinese Strat is $70, compare that with the price in the shops! Fender is also being sneaky with parts. A while I was looking at a set of Fender own brand locking tuners and found out they were actually made by Sperzel and branded Fender. Before I bought a set I asked a mate who deals in Fender parts, I was very surprised when he said they were actually made in China! Seems when Fender introduced their own brand locking tuners they were indeed made by Sperzel but . . . . once they were established manufacturing was switched to China, without changing either the part number or the price. I never buy a new guitar, an off the shelf one doesn't appeal to me as they wouldn't be what I wanted. I much prefer to buy basket cases, neglected or even damaged depending on what the damage is. That way I am free to refurbish and rebuild to my specifications not what some manufacturer thinks I want. Edited October 5, 2008 by scottishstrat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizard Posted October 18, 2008 Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 (edited) Thats is real good way of ensuring quality , I know when I rescue a Guitar most of the time they are found in Pawn Shops. And with the damge you get them for a song. But you really REALly have to watch what your buying. Many times what you think is good deal, turned out to be somebodies High school wood shop project. Just watch what you do and read as much as you can, about the Guitar you want. Edited October 18, 2008 by Wizard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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