GermanFafian Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 This job is looking awesome. Just like you previous ones. Can't wait to see the finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Buttman Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 Your builds are always pleasure to watch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metalhead28 Posted March 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 Just wiped on, so it looks a little dark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verhoevenc Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 NOOO!!! That's baller!! I was questioning the orange on this guitar but man do I feel stoopid. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali-Blues Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 (edited) I have to agree, it looks awesome. I can't wait to see it with clear. you going to do the same to the HS? Edited March 28, 2010 by Cali-Blues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metalhead28 Posted March 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 Yeah, the headstock has the same treatment. I can't wait for the clearcoat too. Hopefully this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ae3 Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metalhead28 Posted March 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Thanks guys. After the first coat of sealer: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killemall8 Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Looks great. Crap you've got a lot of wood! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metalhead28 Posted March 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 That's what she said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verhoevenc Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 THAT'S a lot of wood? I should be worried about myself then... Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prostheta Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 We worry about you anyway Chris, wood notwithstanding XD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metalhead28 Posted April 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 Did some grainfilling today, and put a second coat of sealer on. Under the lights: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorgo Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 Just wiped on, so it looks a little dark. thta looks soooooo good. did you use black first or just put the color on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metalhead28 Posted April 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 Not black, but a really dark orange. I actually wouldn't call it orange, almost like a root beer color. Then I sanded back pretty far to make sure the orange was nice and bright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solomon684 Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 Not black, but a really dark orange. I actually wouldn't call it orange, almost like a root beer color. Then I sanded back pretty far to make sure the orange was nice and bright. I remember on the green one you did recently, you stained it really dark green then sanded that back. How come you use a really dark version of the color instead of black? I ask because I've read to use black, but you don't and your finishes always look fantastic, especially that orange, it looks amazing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metalhead28 Posted April 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 Not black, but a really dark orange. I actually wouldn't call it orange, almost like a root beer color. Then I sanded back pretty far to make sure the orange was nice and bright. I remember on the green one you did recently, you stained it really dark green then sanded that back. How come you use a really dark version of the color instead of black? I ask because I've read to use black, but you don't and your finishes always look fantastic, especially that orange, it looks amazing I can't really give a good reason, just personal taste. This way suits my method. You could probably get similar results with black if you had the right approach. Also, I guess I don't want to get it any darker than I have to in order to just make the figure stand out a little more. If I was doing really dark blue or something, I'd probably use straight black as the first color. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WezV Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 Not black, but a really dark orange. I actually wouldn't call it orange, almost like a root beer color. Then I sanded back pretty far to make sure the orange was nice and bright. I remember on the green one you did recently, you stained it really dark green then sanded that back. How come you use a really dark version of the color instead of black? I ask because I've read to use black, but you don't and your finishes always look fantastic, especially that orange, it looks amazing I can't really give a good reason, just personal taste. This way suits my method. You could probably get similar results with black if you had the right approach. Also, I guess I don't want to get it any darker than I have to in order to just make the figure stand out a little more. If I was doing really dark blue or something, I'd probably use straight black as the first color. i can give a good reason, black will kill the 3D effect of the quilt. It can also look a bit grubby. Using a darker but still slightly translucent version of the same colour maintains the quilty goodness in real life as well as photo's. You can get good results with black, especially for photo's, but you really need to remove almost every bit of it for it to work nicely and use a thinner trans black rather than solid black gibson have done a few that illustrate the point, the boneyard LP's which are essentailly a dark dye and sandback with yellow over the top Gibson version: Looks good, only a slight greeny tinge but they actually call started calling it a green tiger finish so whatever. Looks great in photos, you can see it gets dark but never quite black Epiphone version: Clearly the black is much heavier, adds a greener tinge and would have no 3d effect in real life at all. all are valid finish options, just depends what you are after - but my favorite results always comes from the more subtle methods, which clearly the boneyard LP's are not aiming for. Also, it helps to have highly figured wood to start with or you end up with something more like this blotchy looking thing (another epi boneyard, they illustrate the dangers of dying and sanding back so well) the clear answer is to test on scraps and cutoffs from the actually top Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metalhead28 Posted April 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 Thanks for the input Wez, that sums up my reasoning pretty well. That's not the kind of look I want at all, although it has it's place I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 Man, that looks like its right out of TV's "When Dyed Tops Go BAD' season 1. -Vinny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metalhead28 Posted April 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 Man, that looks like its right out of TV's "When Dyed Tops Go BAD' season 1. -Vinny Mine, or those wretched Epiphones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattharris75 Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 I think the Gibson version looks awesome. The Epiphones....not so much. And yours looks great too, Metalhead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorgo Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 yes....thank you wez....I see your point and that is not the look i want at all. the color and the way the grain shows on metal is exactly what it should look like. truly spectactular!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Foreigner Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 i can give a good reason, black will kill the 3D effect of the quilt. It can also look a bit grubby. Using a darker but still slightly translucent version of the same colour maintains the quilty goodness in real life as well as photo's. You can get good results with black, especially for photo's, but you really need to remove almost every bit of it for it to work nicely and use a thinner trans black rather than solid black so if metalhead had used something like the transtint black dye first, that would have been too dark? it would have killed the 3d? how much difference does it make what the second (primary) color is? Is it about the luminence difference between them? so for a blue finish you maybe would go darker with the first dark dye, than you would with a yellow/orange as here? with apologies for further hijacking this thread about this beautiful guitar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WezV Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 my personal opinion is thta he could have got away with brown on this and it would have popped the figure a bit more, but taken away from the orange a bit. black would have made it more severe, and taken it in a different direction. to me, i simply got 2 or 3 shades darker, but more extreme effects can be had with more extreme differences in the colour the black thing can work well... and if you are after photos that look great its even better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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