Our Souls inc. Posted July 14, 2010 Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 My brother Jesse plays bass in his church and is also the one who taught me how to play guitar almost 25 years ago . Stairway to Heaven and Dust in the wind were my first two songs ! anyways - he sees all the geets I'm building and thought he'd get in on it ... but he waited until pool season was going wide open ! ( bad move.... ) Then God steps in, makes it rain for two days straight and allows me enough time to : glue up the lams , jigsaw the rough shape and cut out a few necks from a pallet runner and thats where I am right now, taking a break from building!!! ( yay!) Specs: Fender scale length P & J pups active electronics Padouk , cedar , white pine and Willow body ( 9 piece lam ) < side note: the willow is from a several-hundred-year-old church gate Quarter-sawn Oak neck made from a pallet runner Bolt on construction in case the neck is crapppppp......... ( do-overs ! ) Teak Oil finish Useless without pics : This is where we are....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted July 14, 2010 Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 I wondered if you were rained out--or in. The few posts you've made the last few months have been in the wee hours. I figured you must be working the proverbial backside off. Looking forward to see how this wood combinations looks. SR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Our Souls inc. Posted July 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 Thanks Scott ! yeah, wide open style while its available. leave @ 6 AM and get home usually between 8 and 9 PM. 6 days a week, occasionally 7. Draining on the body, but nice for the finances. Gotta save up for winter like a squirell ! lol Will post some pics later today... BTW - that bear is flippin AWESOME !!! I'll get tiny's comments on it and let you know...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Posted July 14, 2010 Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 Then God steps in .... he he. Thats a great side note, divine intervention ?? -Vinny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Workingman Posted July 14, 2010 Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 I am interested in how the oak works on the neck. I have a big slab of quarter sawn oak at our place in Vermont that was left by the previous owner. It is pretty but heavy otherwise it would make several body blanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avengers63 Posted July 14, 2010 Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 I am interested in how the oak works on the neck. I personally wouldn't want to use it for the neck. It's heavy and is reported to splinter & tearout when it's carved. I AM using it as a fretboard, though. And then we all know about Brian May's ax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Custom Built Guitars Posted July 14, 2010 Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 I've never used oak as a neck wood, but I too have used it as a fingerboard. I have however turned A LOT of oak on a lathe. If your tools aren't sharp it will tear out. So my thought is if I can turn oak, I know darn well I can shape a neck without tearout. BUT I haven't tried it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Abbett Posted July 14, 2010 Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 I'm still a little confused about "Church Bass". Now I know what a regular Bass is, but how is a "Church Bass" Different? Does it only play amazing grace or something? Limited to 70 BPM? Not allow slapback? Sorry, I crack myself up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geo Posted July 14, 2010 Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 I'm still a little confused about "Church Bass". Now I know what a regular Bass is, but how is a "Church Bass" Different? Does it only play amazing grace or something? Limited to 70 BPM? Not allow slapback? Sorry, I crack myself up. No, it only plays I-V-vi-IV progressions in root position. Don't worry, as a church musician who likes playing church music, I'm allowed to knock it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted July 14, 2010 Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 I'm still a little confused about "Church Bass". Now I know what a regular Bass is, but how is a "Church Bass" Different? Does it only play amazing grace or something? Limited to 70 BPM? Not allow slapback? Sorry, I crack myself up. No, it only plays I-V-vi-IV progressions in root position. Don't worry, as a church musician who likes playing church music, I'm allowed to knock it! I didn't think getting into the root position was acceptable behaviour in church, I guess things must have changed since I was there This sounds interesting how are you going for pics Mike? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
low end fuzz Posted July 14, 2010 Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 i hope you dont plan on abalone crucifixies and baby jesus' control knobs etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avengers63 Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 I'm still a little confused about "Church Bass". Now I know what a regular Bass is, but how is a "Church Bass" Different? Does it only play amazing grace or something? Limited to 70 BPM? Not allow slapback? No, it only plays I-V-vi-IV progressions in root position. Don't worry, as a church musician who likes playing church music, I'm allowed to knock it! I know y'all are just joking around, but you'd be surprised at what's been coming out in contemporary worship lately. I play in the contemporary service at mine and some of it is pretty rockin'. Unfortunately, the worship leader has a thing for Chris Tomlin. We only do 4 songs, and at LEAST 2 of them are from him. And it's all straight, droning 4-beat crap. No boogie, no rhythm, no interest. Every so often he wants me to play lead, but I just can't. The "leads" in that style are little more than background fills that I have a hard time picking out. What's worse, it usually just follows the root note through the chord changes. But the non-Tomlin stuff is OK. I just wish he'd take from the Hillsong library once in a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormLeader Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 Lincoln Brewster has some pretty sweet guitar stuff going on. -Stormy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Our Souls inc. Posted July 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 Ummm... yeah. What he said. JK - Its a 'Church Bass' because its going to be played in a church and its built partly from an old board from a church so ... there you have it. A church bass. Like the chicken only non edible. I actually did o.k. today considering the rain n what not. I glued the lams yesterday and chopped up some necks n stuff. Today was shaping/planing/sanding/breaking/cussing/fixing/cussing/ and here we are ! ........ I'll explain. I jig-sawed the rough shape out , used a skil-saw as a plane and leveled off the different thicknesses to something sandable. Busted out the 40 grit belts and had a real good smoothing out session. leveled the back real quick, it was the front that was like a topographical map of colorado. The center lam was taller than the rest and the padouk was thicker than the other woods too. So - two belts and as many hours later , I had a good surface on front and back. I looked at it and smiled. and it split in two. I swear. O.K. , I touched it and it split , but it still split. The joint between the 260 year old board and the cedar next to it just let go. Like nothing was ever there....... There was evidence of glue on both surfaces, but definitely more on the cedar than the willow. ( I think thats what it is anyways ) so now I had two really cool looking halves but I aint to thrilled about it. I can already see me ditching this body and neck and doing something completely different, but until circumstances force my hand, this is still the plan. So : I glued up the two halves after cleaning them up and thats where it is now, in the clamps. so..... ......... Will keep posted on progress and pit-falls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuffinPunch Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 Thank HEAVEN you cut straighter than you draw! Jeez! it looks like you drew that outline holding the marker between your knees! Just kidding man. sounds like it could be an interesting project. Personally, if I were designing an instrument to be played in church, id take a page out of ESPs book of secrets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Our Souls inc. Posted July 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 Thank HEAVEN you cut straighter than you draw! Jeez! it looks like you drew that outline holding the marker between your knees! Just kidding man. sounds like it could be an interesting project. Personally, if I were designing an instrument to be played in church, id take a page out of ESPs book of secrets. That aint drawing - you silly azz... thats computer squiggles. I did that with the mouse just to indicate what body shape I could use. and the ESP thing there looks ridiculous. Like Prince and Eric the Red designed a guitar together !!! I dig it, but this ones for a 50 year old who likes Fender Basses lol. It'll be fairly simple and not too over the top in any aspect ..... Thanks for stopping by tho - hopefully I'll have some better looking pics real soon , these made me queasy this morning....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuffinPunch Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 Yeah I could tell they were computer squiggles. Just wasnt sure if you made them with a virtual etch a sketch using 2 tiny dials. By the way, both Prince and Eric the Red are over 50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 Yeah I could tell they were computer squiggles. Just wasnt sure if you made them with a virtual etch a sketch using 2 tiny dials. By the way, both Prince and Eric the Red are over 50. HEY! That just makes them wiser! SR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauliemc Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 it split in two. I swear. O.K. , I touched it and it split , but it still split. The joint between the 260 year old board and the cedar next to it just let go. Like nothing was ever there. Thats god trying to tell you something man. He wants you to build a 7 neck mocking bird. im tellin you man, its true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Our Souls inc. Posted July 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2010 Yeah I could tell they were computer squiggles. Just wasnt sure if you made them with a virtual etch a sketch using 2 tiny dials. By the way, both Prince and Eric the Red are over 50. etch a sketch ! lmao.... and c'mon, over 50 or not, thats a vikings version of the Cloud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Our Souls inc. Posted July 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2010 it split in two. I swear. O.K. , I touched it and it split , but it still split. The joint between the 260 year old board and the cedar next to it just let go. Like nothing was ever there. Thats god trying to tell you something man. He wants you to build a 7 neck mocking bird. im tellin you man, its true A 7 neck mocking bird ? what about a 7 STRING mockingbird ? That I could use.... 7 necks is 6 too many, lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted July 16, 2010 Report Share Posted July 16, 2010 Thank HEAVEN you cut straighter than you draw! My cutting is pretty much exactly like that drawing thank god for routers, and he is telling me that he totally wants a 7 string Mockingbird on someone's to do list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Our Souls inc. Posted July 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 O.K. , not much different, just wet and with some HW in place. Its a Carvin bridge and active circuit. This is phase one of the body. I've left plenty of meat in the lower hip and both horns to adjust a few things. It's going to be carved/ rounded pretty much everywhere too. thats the passive/active circuit. more as soon as I have something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Our Souls inc. Posted July 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 and this is a probable scenario as far as body refinements. just a little sleeker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuffinPunch Posted July 17, 2010 Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 (edited) Is that the actual bridge placement? It looks really high... Interesting little dip in the bottom of the body. I hadnt noticed that before. Is that for comfort, or did the placement of the laminates dictate that oddity? It sort of makes the lower horn look awkward IMO. It would look more balanced if you made it slightly less substantial. I know You didnt ask me for my opinion, I give it to you gratuitously anyway! I guess I just feel that if your going to take the time and make the effort to make something, you should design it a little bit. Edit: I was posting this as you posted that last pic. I see you have resolved some of the oddness, so never mind. Still think that lower horn could be smaller though I like the "hook". Edited July 17, 2010 by MuffinPunch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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