Osorio Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 Well After almost an year working just on repairing and setup guitars and basses, I decided to build something new. This project have a lag of a year, some stuffs of my day life/job/study makes me put it a side, but now it started and I'll share this with you guys! Will be four seven strings guitars, with multiscale (25 to 27 inch) Willkinson hardware, Cabrera pickups (two guitars), Jescar stainless frets. The woods are Cedar (2 bodies), Tauari (2 bodies), Marfim (4 necks and 2 fretboards), Imbuia (2 fretboards) , Eucaliptus Root (2 tops), Cinamomo Roots (1 top). I'll send the species later. That's all for a while! Pics of day one, rough cut and glue. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 I'm looking forward to this. The top woods sound very intriguing. SR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistermikev Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 dang diving back in head first w 4 builds - good for you! love the idea of a solid cedar guitar. such a beautiful wood. look fwd to seeing that one specifically but all of them too. cheers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osorio Posted May 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 1 hour ago, mistermikev said: dang diving back in head first w 4 builds - good for you! love the idea of a solid cedar guitar. such a beautiful wood. look fwd to seeing that one specifically but all of them too. cheers Yeah MisterMike 4 its a big dive! I have made other two 7strings (have some entry on the GOTM) with Cedar back and Umbuia top one of them it's mine and I tell you: sounds great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osorio Posted May 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 1 hour ago, ScottR said: I'm looking forward to this. The top woods sound very intriguing. SR Here they are. The two first pics are Eucalyptus, the third it's Cinamomo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistermikev Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Osorio said: Yeah MisterMike 4 its a big dive! I have made other two 7strings (have some entry on the GOTM) with Cedar back and Umbuia top one of them it's mine and I tell you: sounds great! a fav acoustic of mine... some 20+ years old now... has a cedar top. as it's aged the sound just keeps getting better and better - sweeter and sweeter. lovely stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 4 hours ago, mistermikev said: love the idea of a solid cedar guitar. Mike, I strongly suspect the cedar Alessander gets down in Brazil is different than what we are used to seeing up here in the northern section of the Americas. You'll still like it though. SR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 3 hours ago, Osorio said: Here they are. The two first pics are Eucalyptus, the third it's Cinamomo. Oh yeah, those are going to be sweet! SR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistermikev Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 18 minutes ago, ScottR said: Mike, I strongly suspect the cedar Alessander gets down in Brazil is different than what we are used to seeing up here in the northern section of the Americas. You'll still like it though. SR i hadn't considered that... you think it's still weatherproof? Never really thought it was much to look at, not that it's not pretty, but the northern stuff seems to guarantee a nice sounding acoustic as all that I've played - classical to steel string - have seemed to have a unique sort of soft mid range boost. I wonder if it would come across as well in a solid body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osorio Posted May 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 33 minutes ago, ScottR said: Mike, I strongly suspect the cedar Alessander gets down in Brazil is different than what we are used to seeing up here in the northern section of the Americas. You'll still like it though. SR Let's discover if our Cedar are the same. Here I used two species of cedar (even knowing that they're not from same family): - Cedro Rosa (pink cedar) that have a characteristic smell wich is Cedrela fissilis (Meliaceae). - Cedro Arana don't have the same smell of Pink wich is Cedrelinga Catanaeformis (Fabaceae) Wich is that you guys are using? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistermikev Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 doubt it helps... but the one I was referring to was sold to me as 'western cedar'. Obviously not a scientific name and I would have no idea... but I'm guessing someone here will know what the common cedar is in the use. so in short... I'm useless. edit according to wiki Thuja plicata ... "It is not a true cedar of the genus Cedrus" someone might want to confirm me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osorio Posted May 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 1 hour ago, mistermikev said: doubt it helps... but the one I was referring to was sold to me as 'western cedar'. Obviously not a scientific name and I would have no idea... but I'm guessing someone here will know what the common cedar is in the use. so in short... I'm useless. edit according to wiki Thuja plicata ... "It is not a true cedar of the genus Cedrus" someone might want to confirm me. Western Cedar - Thuja plicata (Cupressaceae), its another family! But I think that is more closer to the traditional coniferous used on acoustic soundboards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistermikev Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 learn more every day.. I always thought cedar was just cedar. never occurred to me how many similar but different variations there are of all the woods around the world. btw really like that Eucalyptus ... is some really exotic looking stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted May 14, 2019 Report Share Posted May 14, 2019 https://www.wood-database.com/tornillo/ https://forestlegality.org/risk-tool/species/argentine-cedar http://www.hobbithouseinc.com/personal/woodpics/cedar,%20western%20red.htm http://www.hobbithouseinc.com/personal/woodpics/arborvitae.htm The top two are what I could find on @Osorio's cedars, and the bottom two are what I think gets used in the northern americas. And this is what I always think of when cedar is mentioned. http://www.hobbithouseinc.com/personal/woodpics/cedar,%20aromatic%20red.htm This wouldn't be especially useful for acoustics, but would make fine solid body tops. SR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osorio Posted May 14, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2019 13 minutes ago, ScottR said: https://www.wood-database.com/tornillo/ https://forestlegality.org/risk-tool/species/argentine-cedar http://www.hobbithouseinc.com/personal/woodpics/cedar, western red.htm http://www.hobbithouseinc.com/personal/woodpics/arborvitae.htm The top two are what I could find on @Osorio's cedars, and the bottom two are what I think gets used in the northern americas. And this is what I always think of when cedar is mentioned. http://www.hobbithouseinc.com/personal/woodpics/cedar, aromatic red.htm This wouldn't be especially useful for acoustics, but would make fine solid body tops. SR Youre rigth! Tornillo and Agentine Cedar are the woods that we use here in Brasil. It's quite diferent that species used on horth america and europe! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistermikev Posted May 14, 2019 Report Share Posted May 14, 2019 1 hour ago, ScottR said: http://www.hobbithouseinc.com/personal/woodpics/cedar, aromatic red.htm This wouldn't be especially useful for acoustics, but would make fine solid body tops. SR odd coincidence... just saw a guy that was doing a solid cedar strat build and it looked an awful lot like this. telltale cream and pink mix. would love to find a figured cedar top of any variant. have to bolo for that. thanks both for the education in wood. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Natural Posted May 16, 2019 Report Share Posted May 16, 2019 good to see you around Osorio-looking forward to these builds 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osorio Posted May 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2019 Some Little Updates! The bodies outlines are routed and raw sanded. Necks are glued and I'll work on then next week. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
komodo Posted May 24, 2019 Report Share Posted May 24, 2019 The distribution of the fissures(?) in the Eucalyptus remind me of Mappa burl in a way. Will you leave end up filling them in any way? If your Cedar is anything similar to North American cedar, it will be amazing. The best electric guitar woods I've ever used are light and resonant like pine, cedar, and swamp ash. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyjr1515 Posted May 25, 2019 Report Share Posted May 25, 2019 They are all looking good from over here 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osorio Posted May 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2019 new updates, truss rod channel and outlines routed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted May 25, 2019 Report Share Posted May 25, 2019 Very industrial looking operation you've got going on so far, Alessander. For those of you watching this man's builds for the first time, don't let that fool you. He is a master at knowing when rough cuts are appropriate and when the fine work is called for. These will end up looking very clean, professional and gorgeous. I've always been impressed by your economy of labor, I spend a lot of time sanding parts to see what they look like only to cut part of them away later. SR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizman62 Posted May 25, 2019 Report Share Posted May 25, 2019 Yep, that sure looks like a streamlined process, industrial indeed. No unnecessary hassling despite the obvious curiosity of wanting to get a glimpse of how it might look when finished. @Osorio, to me a great deal of the process of building a guitar is to see the almost miraculous change from pieces of lumber to a playable and good looking instrument and the astonishment when it finally is finished to the limits of my skills. Do you still feel the same magic when doing a series of instruments almost like on an assembly line? Do they just give you the pleasure of making a job well or are they like your babies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osorio Posted May 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2019 On 5/24/2019 at 8:35 AM, komodo said: The distribution of the fissures(?) in the Eucalyptus remind me of Mappa burl in a way. Will you leave end up filling them in any way? If your Cedar is anything similar to North American cedar, it will be amazing. The best electric guitar woods I've ever used are light and resonant like pine, cedar, and swamp ash. Komodo, I will fill them. Probably with epoxy colored (or not) resign, but at this moment i did not think in final finish yet. I have some ideas but nothing decided yet. Yes cedar is a great wood for guitars, this one that I used in this project is very ligth and sounds with mids pronouced. On 5/25/2019 at 11:27 AM, ScottR said: Very industrial looking operation you've got going on so far, Alessander. For those of you watching this man's builds for the first time, don't let that fool you. He is a master at knowing when rough cuts are appropriate and when the fine work is called for. These will end up looking very clean, professional and gorgeous. I've always been impressed by your economy of labor, I spend a lot of time sanding parts to see what they look like only to cut part of them away later. SR Scott, you forgot to mention that I win the trophy for use less clamps when clamping too!! Always when I post a raw cut / sanding, or clamping something I remember the coments of you guys here from PG (LOL). On 5/25/2019 at 12:08 PM, Bizman62 said: Yep, that sure looks like a streamlined process, industrial indeed. No unnecessary hassling despite the obvious curiosity of wanting to get a glimpse of how it might look when finished. @Osorio, to me a great deal of the process of building a guitar is to see the almost miraculous change from pieces of lumber to a playable and good looking instrument and the astonishment when it finally is finished to the limits of my skills. Do you still feel the same magic when doing a series of instruments almost like on an assembly line? Do they just give you the pleasure of making a job well or are they like your babies? I think that doesn't matter how many guitar I already made at this point in my life ( or will do ), I always getting mesmerized with wood grain, veils and general aspects from every cut that I made. Discover the internal secrets from wood it's a exting adventure! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- About the "industrial production line" - I'm just using templates to make job more easy to do and get standardized meassures for all parts. This because I not decide the combinations neck/body/top. So this way I need interchangeble parts to the four guitars. Off course that in some step of the job I'll work exclusively in one at the time. But I like the idea of four guitars finished at same time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osorio Posted June 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 New updates from this week. Picukup and neck cavities open. Neck now have a pre-shape, and of course lots of raw cuts! LOL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.