YetzerHarah Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 Glue contrasting veneer strips in, put it aside for a later fretless guitar (or shortscale bass) project, slot another board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levi79 Posted July 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Glueing and resawing could only cause problem with subsequent fretting as "glued" wood works perhaps differently to raw wood, although in all honesty I would still re-use. At the very least you learn something rather than ditching a likely fine piece of material. Whether you learn something from it using it as an inlay dog or whatever make sure it serves some good positive purpose. I'm probably just going to throw it in the garbage to be honest.... Jokes. I'll be using it for inlay practice and even after that it'll see some use. I've only built one guitar and I've already utilized my scraps for a few things. I've made picks, truss rod covers, pipes and a pick bowl with the scraps from this build and my last already. Doing little projects with the scraps is almost as fun as building the actual guitars haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levi79 Posted July 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 I have yet another question guys. There's a small crack in the Rosewood top, what's the best glue to fill it up? Just normal wood glue? I just want to be sure it takes the danish oil well after. Thanks for all the help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pestvic Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 I agree with using the veneer. if anything it could be used for a fretless someday haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RestorationAD Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 I have yet another question guys. There's a small crack in the Rosewood top, what's the best glue to fill it up? Just normal wood glue? I just want to be sure it takes the danish oil well after. Thanks for all the help! Epoxy or Medium CA. Just tape up on each side of the crack so the glue is only going where it needs to. Veneer the bad maple board and practice sawing frets in it and some scrap so you don't waste anymore wood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prostheta Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 Are the cracks from your clamping? I agree about the CA, however I would do this as the last job. Drop in a little CA, then use 320-400 grit paper and sand the area around the crack, packing in some dust. Let it dry, repeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 I have yet another question guys. There's a small crack in the Rosewood top, what's the best glue to fill it up? Just normal wood glue? I just want to be sure it takes the danish oil well after. Thanks for all the help! Epoxy or Medium CA. Just tape up on each side of the crack so the glue is only going where it needs to. Veneer the bad maple board and practice sawing frets in it and some scrap so you don't waste anymore wood. +1 Practice setting frets in it too. You'll want to get a feel for that whole process before you try it on a live piece. SR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levi79 Posted July 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 Very small update. Unfortunately I haven't been doing much work on this in the past couple weeks, which really sucks. I was hoping to have it approaching the finish line by this time. I've been waiting for my Abalone to come in for the inlay! I want to do the inlay before attaching the fretboard to the neck just because I haven't done inlay before and if I were to put the fretboard on, then inlay and mess up it would be much harder to correct. I could do some of the body work, but I'd just like to have the neck done first before I go there. Anyways, pics. Truss Rod installed I made a little mod to my fret slotting miter box. Works alot better now. Headstock veneer glued. An awful picture and a sneak peak of Build #3. Practicing inlay. Inlay glued in with epoxy + maple dust. How my very first inlay came out. Not very good, but I know how to do better next time. However I have a question for anyone who might know. I know that the best way to not see any filler/glue in an inlay is to route it more accurately. I used to big of a bit on some of it while routing and will be doing that differently, but I'm just curious why it's all grey in the gaps. I used epoxy and maple dust. What's the best way to get the glue to blend in well with the fretboard color? More maple dust? Thanks! Also thanks for the replies on the fretboard issue and the crack issue. The crack was caused by my clamping cause I was dumb and didn't use a caul over top of my chambers. Live you learn though. And the fretboard, I just made a new one. The old one was used for inlay practice and will also be used for a truss rod cover or 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 The sawdust always get a bit darker when mixed with glue hence the grey. It's a good thing on an ebony board, not so much on a maple one. I've nev er done a maple board so I'm curious about the answer too this as well. More dust will help but I think it will still be darker.... SR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levi79 Posted July 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 After tonnes of time in practice, guess what I did? Inlay material Inlay cut out Last practice route. Time to go onto the real fretboard. Actual fretboard with the inlay. Pretty damn snug fit. now to glue it in. Pretty proud of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob123 Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 LEVI! haha didnt know you were on here too man That pi came out pretty damn good man. I would do some black epoxy to outline it, but thats just me. Very good stuff dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levi79 Posted July 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 Yeah dude. I just decided filling it with straight epoxy was the way to go. It turned out pretty good I think. Got the fretboard on and the neck all trimmed now. I'm going to do an update Saturday before I leave on holidays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levi79 Posted August 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 Update! Inlay epoxied in Fretboard, meet neck blank Starting to look like a neck! Had a little bump in the road flush routing the neck blank to the fretboard size. Thankfully this came off clean and I could find the chip. Glued back on, can't even tell that it happened now. Fretboard binding started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levi79 Posted August 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 Managed to route the binding channel so you can see a thin strip of maple beneath the binding. Turned out better than I expected. Started radiusing Dat inlay Headstock I made a little planning oopsie... Now sure how I'm going to route the binding channel from the fretboard to the corners on the headstock. I use a dremel 4000 with the stewmac router base/edge guide and the fretboard is higher than the headstock and the router base has nowhere to ride. If that makes any sense. Any ideas here? All I can think of is doing these parts with a chisel or free handing it with the dremel flex shaft attatchment. Both of which scare the hell out of me.... Haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 Fantastic inlay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Workingman Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 Nice inlay. An idea about the grey problem with maple and glue; would it make sense to bleach a scrap and sand that? The idea being that the bleached maple would darken to the tone of normal maple. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levi79 Posted August 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 Thanks guys! It really means alot on my first try! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted August 4, 2012 Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 I made a little planning oopsie... Now sure how I'm going to route the binding channel from the fretboard to the corners on the headstock. I use a dremel 4000 with the stewmac router base/edge guide and the fretboard is higher than the headstock and the router base has nowhere to ride. If that makes any sense. Any ideas here? All I can think of is doing these parts with a chisel or free handing it with the dremel flex shaft attatchment. Both of which scare the hell out of me.... Haha. Use double sided tape to attach a scrap of the proper thickness to your headstock. Sand it flush to the unrouted part and then reset your bit to finish the route. SR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levi79 Posted August 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 I made a little planning oopsie... Now sure how I'm going to route the binding channel from the fretboard to the corners on the headstock. I use a dremel 4000 with the stewmac router base/edge guide and the fretboard is higher than the headstock and the router base has nowhere to ride. If that makes any sense. Any ideas here? All I can think of is doing these parts with a chisel or free handing it with the dremel flex shaft attatchment. Both of which scare the hell out of me.... Haha. Use double sided tape to attach a scrap of the proper thickness to your headstock. Sand it flush to the unrouted part and then reset your bit to finish the route. SR Why didn't I think of that? Probably cause it makes total sense. Thanks dude! This is what I will do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levi79 Posted August 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2012 Been a little busy in this awesome place in the past week. Little family holiday. Got back last night and worked on this for about 11 hours today. Got the headstock binded. Bought the smallest chisel I could find and went to town. Learned the hard way to bind a headstock before attatching the fretboard. One small mistake turned into a couple hours of extra work. Neck pocket routed, this thing is going to have crazy access. I mean all the way up to 27 effortlessly. Insanely tight fit. It took me a couple minutes to get this in there and out of there haha. Armrest chamfer and body binding channel routed. I think I might retire my stewmac edge guide for binding channels and get some real router bits with the sized bearings. Just feel the results could be alot cleaner that way. Back chamfering This picture is full of awesome. That's it for today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauliemc Posted August 15, 2012 Report Share Posted August 15, 2012 Its like you were reading my mind man http://www.aeolianguitars.com/photo11425122.html Except that I still hav a little to do with my own chopper - not quite as progressed as yours. Nice gitir so far, should come out real nice i rekon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levi79 Posted August 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2012 Haha, it's actually not even mine. I wish. It's badass. It's my dads. It was sitting right there so I thought I might as well get a pic with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob123 Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 coming along pretty good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levi79 Posted August 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 Had the nice camera out so I decided to take a few pics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levi79 Posted August 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 Shaped the neck today. Nice and thin. Starting out Getting there All done! Volute Niiice and thin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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