avengers63 Posted November 28, 2023 Report Share Posted November 28, 2023 How thick is the body? It looks like it'll weigh more than a LP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted November 28, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2023 17 minutes ago, avengers63 said: How thick is the body? It looks like it'll weigh more than a LP. It started as a 2" back and a 1" top--actually just under on both of those. Currently it is 2.5" at the thickest point and a half inch at the thinnest point. My bodies look like a wedge in cross section. It is under 5 pounds at this point. SR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted December 3, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2023 It is sanded down to final thickness, so time to fix the extra hole. Here's the scoop cut out and the replacement scoop to go in. Gently clamped. Looks like it squished down nicely. And sanded flush. See it? I cannot unsee it, but enlarged like this I can just make out a couple of fine glue lines. SR 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted December 3, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2023 Time to start the dye process. First is the base line dye - deep and dark for the shadows. Fast forward through a couple more dye and sandbacks and we get to the last dye job, which will be close to the finished color.....frog juice green. SR 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrim Posted December 3, 2023 Report Share Posted December 3, 2023 6 minutes ago, ScottR said: See it? On this macro level the spot repair has different color. It is more yellow than the wood around it. Is it noticeable in real world? Probably not. Nice fix. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted December 3, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2023 Last dye job sanded back. The thinnest point. The thickest point of the body, and it measures 2.375". The back sanded back. It was only dyed to darken the pores. Wedge cross section. As much sand back as I got to today. Turns out this thing is actually closer to three pounds than it is to five....as best I can tell. My garage scale is not a precision instrument. SR 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted December 3, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, henrim said: On this macro level the spot repair has different color. It is more yellow than the wood around it. Is it noticeable in real world? Probably not. Nice fix. You are correct, the shade is slightly different. It is still a repair of an error. I think after it's all finished up, I'll probably get away with it. SR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrim Posted December 3, 2023 Report Share Posted December 3, 2023 1 minute ago, ScottR said: I'll probably get away with it. Yes, it’s a beautiful repair that nobody will ever see. Which is the unfortunate side of the beautiful repairs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizman62 Posted December 4, 2023 Report Share Posted December 4, 2023 What a lovely repair! Now I finally understand the "scoop" thing mentioned at an earlier stage. For doing the same I should buy a gouge and learn how to sharpen it, then learn how to cut two similar scoops. One is easy but cutting a matching piece to the bowl... No way! Not to mention using the communal gouges at the workshop... Now it's also obvious what you meant by "green". Until now I was wondering if it was about the final colour or about the timber. Looks nice. Bright red plasticware with white edges would fit the current season, don't you think? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyjr1515 Posted December 4, 2023 Report Share Posted December 4, 2023 10 hours ago, ScottR said: No. I can't see it even when I have been told it is there. A splendid, and invisible, repair. Great thinking about the wedge. That's a LOT of weight coming off and yet you are left with a full depth control chamber and front visuals that don't give the little secret away! I like the thinking and the result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted December 4, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2023 7 hours ago, Bizman62 said: What a lovely repair! Now I finally understand the "scoop" thing mentioned at an earlier stage. For doing the same I should buy a gouge and learn how to sharpen it, then learn how to cut two similar scoops. One is easy but cutting a matching piece to the bowl... No way! Not to mention using the communal gouges at the workshop... Now it's also obvious what you meant by "green". Until now I was wondering if it was about the final colour or about the timber. Looks nice. Bright red plasticware with white edges would fit the current season, don't you think? Well there's no way I'd dissuade you from buying a gouge--it's so useful--but a better plan is to never drill a hole in the wrong place! As far as cutting a matching scoop, you don't really have to. You want it a little oversize, so the edges overhang the "bowl" and then sand them flush. Red and green do work for this time of year. I can't say I'd much care for red plastic ware, but I've often wanted to do a figured maple with red in the dark areas and green in the highlights.... in honor of Gary Moore's "Blood of Emeralds". It would take more tricks than I possess though, because red and green mixed together make brown. SR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted December 4, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2023 5 hours ago, Andyjr1515 said: No. I can't see it even when I have been told it is there. A splendid, and invisible, repair. Great thinking about the wedge. That's a LOT of weight coming off and yet you are left with a full depth control chamber and front visuals that don't give the little secret away! I like the thinking and the result. Thanks Andy. You are correct, the wedge shape does remove a lot of weight....and it's really comfy. It started as a belly cut tied to a forearm cut and then both just blended into the design's shape. It's worked out pretty well for me. SR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Natural Posted December 4, 2023 Report Share Posted December 4, 2023 excellent job on that repair. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted December 4, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2023 5 hours ago, Mr Natural said: excellent job on that repair. Thank you kind sir! SR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADFinlayson Posted December 5, 2023 Report Share Posted December 5, 2023 I'm amazed how light that is, that's a massive chunk of limba and rosewood, I don't think I've ever been that lucky with limba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted December 5, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2023 5 hours ago, ADFinlayson said: I'm amazed how light that is, that's a massive chunk of limba and rosewood, I don't think I've ever been that lucky with limba. This was definitely a non-typical piece of limba. When I bought it around three years ago, it was on a pallet of rough cut limba and I dug around and found this piece. It was 2"x8" and 9 feet long and barely weighed 10 lbs. Super light....maybe there's something called swamp[ limba. The down side was it's soft. Look at it cross-eyed and it gets a dent. Two more things contribute to the lack of weight. The carve: there truly is not much of the limba and rosewood left compared to what I started with. There is a long tenon, but no heel whatsoever on the neck. It's got a large control cavity and all those curves on the top represent removed material, along with the afore mentioned wedge shape. Next is the fact that it is a small body to begin with. It's not easily recognized in pics with little to compare it to, so I'll post a shot of it sitting on an LP template when I get a chance. A small body is one of the easiest ways to reduce weight. Of course, I'm going to give it a deep clear coat and bolt a bunch of metal onto it, so it will gain most of those pounds back, before it's done and over. SR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted December 10, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 Here's a couple of shots with a Les Paul template to compare size. And the sand back work is done. I'm pore filling with my table top epoxy resin. The back has the bigger pores so it is first. SR 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted December 10, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 And the next day the top gets it first coat. SR 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizman62 Posted December 11, 2023 Report Share Posted December 11, 2023 9 hours ago, ScottR said: And the sand back work is done. I've said it before but for potential future readers repeating feels just right: Enhancing the figuration with other than black makes the result much more vivid. Clean as opposed to smudgy, also more natural. Coal and some stones are the only black things that come into mind thinking of Nature and even they have depth (chatoyance) and shades of other colours. Plain matte lampblack simply looks like dirt on the surface in my eyes. There's uses for such but it's not the best option for this kind of a job. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted December 11, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2023 8 hours ago, Bizman62 said: I've said it before but for potential future readers repeating feels just right: Enhancing the figuration with other than black makes the result much more vivid. Clean as opposed to smudgy, also more natural. Coal and some stones are the only black things that come into mind thinking of Nature and even they have depth (chatoyance) and shades of other colours. Plain matte lampblack simply looks like dirt on the surface in my eyes. There's uses for such but it's not the best option for this kind of a job. Exactly. Couldn't have said it better myself. Save the black to tint lacquer for spraying a nice burst. It is wonderful in that role. SR 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjiscooler Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 as gorgeous as the final product is, I kinda liked the way it looked all gouged up, especially the heel carve, looked like an awesome texture. id like to do that to whole guitar someday. Also, that wedge taper you have is really cool looks comfortable with the weight in all the right spots! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted January 3 Author Report Share Posted January 3 12 hours ago, tjiscooler said: as gorgeous as the final product is, I kinda liked the way it looked all gouged up, especially the heel carve, looked like an awesome texture. id like to do that to whole guitar someday. Also, that wedge taper you have is really cool looks comfortable with the weight in all the right spots! I agree the carved look is cool, I just wouldn't want to play it for any length of time. And you are correct, the wedge body shape is super comfortable and hangs beautifully from a strap. It's like a soft snuggle from your best girl. SR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killemall8 Posted January 4 Report Share Posted January 4 that is some delicious tastiness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted January 4 Author Report Share Posted January 4 15 hours ago, killemall8 said: that is some delicious tastiness Thanks Luis! I'm looking forward to some shooting weather, so I can get the tints and bursts done and finally see what it's going to look like. SR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADFinlayson Posted January 4 Report Share Posted January 4 Oh wow I've just seen your fix for the accidental hole on the back, bloody good! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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