jessejames Posted April 2, 2013 Report Posted April 2, 2013 I had some old templates that were made out of lexan, but the bit used to get hot and melt and instantly ruin the templates. This time, I had them made out of 10 gauge steel. I can use them to help press the top to the body. And, the bit will never get hot and these should never wear out. I had these water jetted out. Finally a cure to my template blues! Quote
westhemann Posted April 2, 2013 Report Posted April 2, 2013 Interesting. Just be careful,because a slip on a wood or lexan template can ruin the template,but a slip on these can shatter your bit and send shards into your soft parts. I suppose if you use these with a table router it would be less risky. Quote
verhoevenc Posted April 2, 2013 Report Posted April 2, 2013 No offense, but I think is is HUGE overkill. Like Wes pointed out, there are potential hazards with using this as a material for templates. Also, the added weight probably makes them a little more difficult to handle, thus causing more risk. Also, I can't imagine what you paid to have is done... Why not MDF and hardboard? Doesn't melt, tends to work for most of us? Chris Quote
guitar2005 Posted April 2, 2013 Report Posted April 2, 2013 I'd be scared of running steel templates. It only takes a slight change in angle for that to catch. I use MDF and it works well. Quote
ScottR Posted April 2, 2013 Report Posted April 2, 2013 I remember ol' Huffschmidt being pretty proud of his steel templates...... Quote
westhemann Posted April 2, 2013 Report Posted April 2, 2013 Well,in a perfect world you would never accidentally hit the steel template with a bit,but if you never accidentally hit your template you would have no need for steel. See the problem? BTW I only ever had lexan melt if a bearing seized up against it or I used a bit without a bearing...so these days "if" I am using a lexan template I keep a careful eye on the bearing to make sure it is not spinning against the lexan and I don't actually follow the template around the edge until I have already routed as much of the middle as I can without touching the template to keep friction down 1 Quote
guitar2005 Posted April 3, 2013 Report Posted April 3, 2013 I remember ol' Huffschmidt being pretty proud of his steel templates...... Is he still alive? Quote
ScottR Posted April 3, 2013 Report Posted April 3, 2013 Beats me. He hasn't been seen around here since the last time he got irritated with us. SR Quote
killemall8 Posted April 3, 2013 Report Posted April 3, 2013 And not to mention, 10g steel is barley 1/8" thick. That barley gives the bearing any surface at all to ride on. You sir, are quite insane. Quote
westhemann Posted April 3, 2013 Report Posted April 3, 2013 Barley? Perhaps you mean barely?Either that or you are hungry? Quote
RestorationAD Posted April 3, 2013 Report Posted April 3, 2013 I agree that steel templates have no place in everyday use. I would not want to be there when you hit one with a router bit. However using them as the master setup templates and maybe to check your disposable MDF templates makes some sense. Still not keen on trusting a bearing to ride on 1/8" steel.... 1/4" maybe. Before the CNC I always had 2 sets of templates. The master templates and the disposable MDF templates. On a regular basis I would lose or damage the MDF templates... get tired of making new templates and just use the master for a "real quick" route. That is when inevitably I would have a slip and damage the master template... Then I bought a CNC and used it to make master setup templates. The CNC makes mistakes right on the workpiece so I no longer need disposable MDF templates. As for Huff. He has been banned from more forums than I have ever joined and might not be the best example of how to do things. I like him and he has always been cool to me but his methods are his own. Quote
KeithHowell Posted April 3, 2013 Report Posted April 3, 2013 (edited) Perhaps you mean barely?Either that or you are hungry? Or thirsty? Want to brew some beer? Edited April 3, 2013 by KeithHowell Quote
ScottR Posted April 3, 2013 Report Posted April 3, 2013 The CNC makes mistakes right on the workpiece so I no longer need disposable MDF templates. As for Huff. He has been banned from more forums than I have ever joined and might not be the best example of how to do things. I like him and he has always been cool to me but his methods are his own. Methinks my sarcasm may have been too subtle....... SR Quote
RestorationAD Posted April 3, 2013 Report Posted April 3, 2013 Methinks my sarcasm may have been too subtle....... SRI tried to be subtle. Heck all things considered it was an understatement.I should have made some Frankenstein's monster Abby Normal reference... I failed at being funny. Quote
verhoevenc Posted April 4, 2013 Report Posted April 4, 2013 I'll say it. He's a trash bag. Chris Quote
jessejames Posted April 4, 2013 Author Report Posted April 4, 2013 I've never had a bit dig into the actual template. I just built my first body from these templates, worked like a charm. I do use a router table though. Love these templates. Quote
jessejames Posted April 4, 2013 Author Report Posted April 4, 2013 Oh, and the cost was 100$. Material and time for all 4. $25 a template, not too shabby for what it is. Quote
westhemann Posted April 4, 2013 Report Posted April 4, 2013 On Huf Let's not go there.He was here,then he left of his own accord.I am not a fan because I personally experienced his skewed(IMO) point of view,but trashing him in his absence is unnecessary.He is no Litchfield that people need to be warned away from. I find myself wanting to say bad things,but like I say,he is not here and it's against the spirit of the forum(or something).. Quote
verhoevenc Posted April 4, 2013 Report Posted April 4, 2013 He's welcome to come read it Wouldn't be anything new from me to him. Chris Quote
Prostheta Posted April 4, 2013 Report Posted April 4, 2013 Wes just likes to dangle his unmentionables out of the car window waiting for somebody to complain about it. Patrick was in no way a maligned person in my opinion. I'll certainly go for a beer or two with him next time we pass through Switzerland. Quote
westhemann Posted April 4, 2013 Report Posted April 4, 2013 Are you drinking already today,Pros? It's always 5:00 somewhere Quote
Prostheta Posted April 4, 2013 Report Posted April 4, 2013 You betcha. Now what was this thread about again? Quote
RestorationAD Posted April 4, 2013 Report Posted April 4, 2013 Girls I think? Woot! $100 bits for 4 templates is palatable. 1/4" Aluminum would be a nice alternative to the steel but might be more pricey. Quote
jessejames Posted April 5, 2013 Author Report Posted April 5, 2013 I like Huf, he's always been cool to me, and he's a successful guitar builder who is always willing to share knowledge. Quote
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